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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:32 AM
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When McConnel says "Make sure he is a 1 term president" he means IMPEACHMENT!
Mark my words
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:35 AM
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1. Well,
McConnell is a fool and a punk.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:37 AM
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2. Could That Be Interpreted As A Physical Threat?
Call the Secret Service. Who knows what that pos means?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:23 PM
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8. no.
How does acting stupid help us?
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:03 PM
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18. +1 million
If they intrepid everything to mean something it isn't, millions would be in jail.
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:45 PM
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20. oh please
we know what he means.

stupid shit like this gets us no where
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:55 PM
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24. +100 one logical post amongst silliness
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:54 PM
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23. No. If they are planning it they wouldn't say it now.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:46 AM
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3. I was very surprised by nochin's demeanor.
He's usually such a soft spoken squishy sort of Pub. Obviously he's received his marching orders from the far reich.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:48 AM
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4. Of course. They abuse every procedure there is
For no other purpose than their own advancement.

And yet we see them admired here for their "spine."
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:53 AM
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5. They realize what happened to them in '98 when they tried that
they lost ground in the house and public opinion was strongly against them--Gingrich ended up resigning. Besides, they have no impeachable offense against Obama. With Clinton they could push the lying to the grand jury or whoever, but so far Obama has had no Whitewaters, travelgates, or been caught fooling around with White House interns.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:34 PM
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9. Yup. Obama just has not had a real huge Whitewater like scandal.
I guess they could pull the birth certificate issue out but it is a long shot. Obama has been hurt more by the economy, Clinton was hurt by mini-scandals like Whitewater, travelgate, Monica, taking illegal donations (remember that?).
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:55 PM
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11. Whitewater was no scandal
It was all made up. Rezko will be Obama's whitewater.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:22 PM
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13. Rezko!!! Rezko!! Rezko!!!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:29 PM
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Of course it was. I should have put quotes around it. Ken Starr found nothing
in the end and wasted years and taxpayer money.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:29 PM
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14. dupe
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:33 PM by Jennicut
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:53 PM
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15. So you seem to keep hoping. n/t
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:54 PM
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10. They dont give a crap
They dont care if there are casualties, being a GOP casualty means you get some cushy think tank job.

Obama does not have to have any 'gates' the GOP will make them up like they did with Clinton. Most likely Rezko will be his whitewater.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:16 PM
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6. No way

While you can rest assured they'd love to do that, they can't be THAT STUPID can they?

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:08 PM
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19. Yes. Even if he were aquitted in the senate, having been impeached would destroy his chances
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:14 PM by AlinPA
of being re-elected. They will create a "black mark" on him for anything they want to. They could start with the birther / Kenya thing first and push that. As Pres. Ford, said they can impeach for any reason the want. They have the votes.

Their base will love it.

The media will help it along.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:23 PM
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7. okay I've marked them.
when will you eat them.

McConnell is in the Senate and the Senate isn't convicting Obama even if the House impeached him, which they wont.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:57 PM
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12. Not sure where your glowy view of GOP intentions comes from
Of course the GOP wont impeach him, they would never stoop so low.

:rofl:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:04 PM
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17. Meant to ask: if McConnell's words were a "signal" about impeachment
wouldn't he have said that Obama won't finish his first term (not that he'd be a one-term president)?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:54 PM
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16. What happens if you're wrong?
:shrug:
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:40 PM
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21. Impeached for WHAT? There has to be a reason, you can't do it on a whim -
- and if they had a reason we would have heard about it long ago.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:42 PM
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22. He's talking about working with them. They're talking about beating his ass
Americans want a tough President. He needs to start standing up and fighting back. Not compromising
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:56 PM
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25. Republican Angle even threatened "2nd amendment remedies". They are serious. nt
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:13 PM
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26. On what grounds? n/t
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:54 PM
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27. I don't think
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 06:06 PM by sweetapogee
I don't think the pubs will go for impeachment before the 2012 election. Rather I think they will try to damage the dem party as a whole over the economy, the stimulus and HCR. One of the (perceived) problems with the stimulus package is the WH isn't giving up records of where the money went. Not saying there isn't an accounting, just saying the WH isn't releasing the information. So a good question to ask is simply Why?

IF the economy is still in the shit can this time next year, I expect the pukes will hold public congressional hearings (modeled after the Waxman/BP hearings) on where the money is going or was spent on the stimulus and HCR. IF the WH has not done a through job tracking the spending it will make the dems look the opposite of good. I also think the pubs will go after policy makers under the President, not the President himself but I expect the pukes to be very aggressive as they don't have time to dilly. The dem leadership will be on their own on this one because they didn't allow the pukes any say on where the stimulus went or how it was used and it's effectiveness is certainly debatable.

The idea will be to have the dems turn on the president which given the direction of his poll numbers may not be too hard to do. I think in general, the republicans will make the case and make us democrats show where any funds for programs and entitlements is being spent and give a sense of how much good the programs are doing. They will also try at least to make the WH and the dem leadership explain where the funds will come from and I think in the near term (before dec 31 2010) make the lame duck congress pass a budget resolution which they haven't done yet. This will make the dems the bad guys because the dems will have to increase the debt ceiling to pass a budget, the pukes will not allow this and hence the dems will have to cut spending, not the pukes. Call them pukes stupid all you want, but the facts argue the opposite.

Again, IMO the pukes are banking on a bad economy. This puts us in a really bad position right now, if we resist any repub attempts to improve the business climate, the pukes will have a field day in the media. How can we improve the business climate without being friendly to business? If all we do is offer further debt spending as a solution to a bad economy, then it had better get results. History is not on our side when arguing the wisdom of this tactic. The pukes will remind the country that the WH pushed a 29 billion stimulus for education and teachers and still teachers were laid off. I know because my wife is a PS teacher.

Call me a trader all you want but as I see it the pukes have for the near term (the next 4 + years) gained the upper hand and our efforts should be focused all out on getting people back to work. No one is going to care about abortion or DADT if we have no jobs or if the economy is mired like it is now. The big problem with debt spending to fix the economy is once the economy rights itself, inflation will become out of control. We should bite our tongues and disclipline ourselves fully on fixing the economy if we want to regain control. This is something we don't do well.

Of course none of this would be a serious problem IF we hadn't lost so badly last tuesday.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:10 AM
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29. Self-delete. Superfluous post. lol n/t
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 12:11 AM by Beartracks
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raven42 Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 12:25 AM
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30. You make some good points
I think the republicans will try these kinds of tactics in the congress. They'll fall back on the old "wasteful spending" line of attack (which, of course, always conveniently leaves out defense spending)and play that up in congressional hearings, media interviews, etc. I hope the White House will be smart enough to counter this effectively.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:52 PM
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28. I don't doubt for a minute that the Republicans would try this tactic
History may well yet repeat itself.
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