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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:45 PM
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Keith Olbermann suspended indefinitely without pay, after word he made political contributions
Fuck!

MSNBC President Phil Griffin announces Keith Olbermann suspended indefinitely without pay, after word he made political contributions

http://twitter.com/#!/stevebruskCNN/statuses/603941226156032
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:46 PM
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1. What? Is this a joke?
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:46 PM
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2. This is fucked up.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:48 PM
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9. If it was against company policy, it was a stupid thing for him to do and...
sorry to say ... he deserves some sort of punishment.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:54 PM
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18. But Keith would know that. There has to be some other reason why he did this.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:44 PM
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51. Yes, it is. Kos wrote about Phil Griffin and MSNBC...
Phil Griffin and MSNBC
by kos

Thu Jul 15, 2010 at 12:40:03 PM PDT

Last week I noted that I had been blacklisted from MSNBC for hurting Joe Scarborough's feelings on Twitter. Apparently, they have a policy of booting anyone who criticizes the network's sole conservative host (and no one else).

A lot of the responses were incredulous. Why would MSNBC president Phil Griffin let Scarborough dictate the guest list of the evening hosts? Scarborough's crappy show is last in the advertising demo among the four cable morning shows, lagging even Headline News' show (quick -- what's that show called?). On the other hand, Keith Olbermann's show is the only show in all of cableland to break Fox News' stranglehold on the top 10 list.

The answer is that with the impending acquisition of NBC by Comcast, Griffin fears for his job, and Scarborough is his meal ticket. You see, Griffin had nothing to do with Olbermann's show, and had little to do with Rachel Maddow's -- a project spearheaded by Olbermann.

According to MSNBC insiders, as Olbermann’s ratings have risen, so has his level of power at MSNBC. “Phil Griffin didn’t hire Rachel,” says one person who works at the network. “He didn’t want to hire Rachel. Keith hired Rachel.” Olbermann plays down his involvement: “It was nothing more sophisticated than being the person who nominated her for membership in the club.” But he was the one who broke the news of Maddow’s show on August 19, on the liberal Website Daily Kos, writing coyly, “Yes, I had something to do with it.”

more...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/14/884359/-Phil-Griffin-and-MSNBC
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:46 PM
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3. Does than mean he's fired
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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:00 PM
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22. nope just on "vacation" for a while ....
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:37 PM
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49. On vacation without pay /
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:46 PM
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4. What the hell?
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:47 PM by SunsetDreams
On edit: think I will wait for confirmation.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:48 PM
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8. I think this is enough confirmation
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:52 PM
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14. DAMN!
:mad:

Why can't he contribute as an American Citizen? Did he mention it on air or something?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:53 PM
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17. Journalistic integrity and independence.
I know it doesn't seem fair but that's what we should expect from those who "report" the news.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:57 PM
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20. Yes, but isn't Keith more of a commentator?
He's not a Katie Couric. Everyone knows where Keith is
politically.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:00 PM
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23. Should Juan Williams have been fired?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:06 PM
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30. I think...
...that admitting that you are a bigot who cannot be rational when
it comes to an entire class of people--is a bit different from holding
Democratic viewpoints.

I don't consider being an ignorant bigot parallel with having political
views.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:47 PM
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5. I heard that everyone at FAUX made political donations too, Just saying
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:53 PM
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16. Yeah, but Olbermann gave them hell for it when their news division did it.
The problem here is that, for some unfathomable reason, Keith is classified as a "news anchor" at MSNBC when he clearly is an opinion commentator.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:02 PM
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25. He is both.
Clearly, he was operating as an anchor during their election coverage. I agree with your thoughts on if he is solely a commentator. Which is why I have never like him doing news coverage of elections, conventions, etc.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:13 PM
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37. Yeah, you can't really be both.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:14 PM by woo me with science
The line has been there historically for a reason.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:47 PM
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6. I hate to say I told you so.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:48 PM by Renew Deal
But this sort if thing is wrong.

I wonder if they know about Scarborough.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:01 PM
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24. Scar campaigned with Bush while he was at the
network. They had no problem with that.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:04 PM
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28. Good Point!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:48 PM
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7. Fox funnels money to candidates but olberman can't. Nt
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:49 PM
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11. NBC has higher standards
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:55 PM
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19. Olbermann has strongly criticized FOX for doing it.
The problem here is that NBC has him classified as a news anchor, when he is really a commentator.
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benlurkin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:30 PM
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44. Olbermann didn't sign a contract with FOX , now did he?
MSNBC said not to do this. Fox might not have the same fucking contract requirements. Stop comparing the two
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:48 PM
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10. wow, I guess they don't want to be compared to Fox news
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:50 PM
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12. I'm thinking about this and if this is true - Keith is no dummy. He did this for a reason.
And I bet that reason is right across the plaza from msnbc.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:04 PM
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27. You mean SAKS?
If he thinks another network is going to pick him up, he's dreaming. He has a horrible reputation in the industry.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:09 PM
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32. Maybe he wants to go back to ESPN.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:35 PM
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48. Didn't he leave ESPN under less-than-ideal circumstances? n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:18 PM
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41. hahaha- that's funny. I was referring to Faux & maybe he did this to start the conversation about
news organizations, and/or their pundits, donating to political campaigns.

Saks - haha - I can picture Keith selling ties.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:30 PM
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43. I used to work in the area
and it was the first thing to pop into my head. Keith has a pretty big ego and may have thought he could get away with it. I guess we have to wait and see what he says.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:51 PM
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55. lol @ the Saks joke
:D
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:02 PM
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62. Well
It is across the plaza and I figured we need some smiles this week.
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benlurkin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:34 PM
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47. He didn't do this on purpose
He just realized the hard way that he's not 10 ft tall and bullet proof
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:51 PM
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13. There are 3 reasons I watch MSNBC: Big Ed, Rachel and Keith.
I am not happy with MSNBC if this is true.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:02 PM
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26. and you will now watch Cenk
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:04 PM
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29. No, I wont
He's a blowhard.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:11 PM
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36. I know i Will!
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:16 PM
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39. I would only watch Rachel
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:52 PM
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15. If News Corp can give $2 million to the GOP, MSNBC can lighten up on Keith. nt
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:59 PM
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21. Maybe he thought he was a proxy for corporate cash via Citizens United
:shrug:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:07 PM
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31. Sad, but it was stupid for Keith not to follow the rules except if he wanted to create a controversy
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:09 PM
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33. Cenk is going to have a FULL Plate if they Ask him to Anchor this show too...
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:10 PM by denimgirly
Today Cenk is hosting Dylan and Big Ed....seeing as how Keith is gone too i wonder if they will ask Cenk to anchor that too...i think Cenk might be burnt out to want to.

I guess we are going to be seeing Cenk a bit more often on Countdown :D
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:47 PM
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52. Not me!
I didn't like what I saw from him the last time he was on! Guess it will be just Rachel!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:53 PM
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56. Could be a double Maddow show
Since Cenk and O'Donnell are both out. Maybe they can get Shepard Smith. He's right across the street. :silly:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:10 PM
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34. Wow, I didn't see that one coming!!!
:wow:

But, if it was against company policy, why did he make political contributions?

;(
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:11 PM
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35. On the PLUS Side...Countdown's Ratings are going to be thru the roof when Keith returns.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:15 PM
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38. What I want to know - who was the rat? Who told Griffin about these donations?
Could somebody be jealous of Keith's ratings? Could somebody be upset that it was Keith, not them, that hosted the election results on Tues nite?

:tinfoilhat: Remember Phil Donahue? Just sayin'. :tinfoilhat:
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:32 PM
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45. Donations of that size are in the public record.
Unless you're a corporation giving through the Chamber of Commerce of course.
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:17 PM
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40. Phil Griffin is going rogue, He needs to be sacked, Now !
This is an expract taken from a Huffpo article.

The move is doubly significant in that it represents a major development in the relationship between Griffin and Olbermann, who once told the New Yorker, "Phil thinks he's my boss."

"Keith doesn't run the show," Griffin told New York Magazine recently. "I do a lot of things he doesn't like. I do a lot of things he does."

In recent months, Griffin has taken several bold steps to declare his authority over the network and its sometimes unruly talent: he sent a stern memo warning hosts to not publicly fight with each other, he suspended David Shuster indefinitely for filming a CNN pilot, suspended Donny Deutsch, banned Markos Moulitsas from the network, and reprimanded Ed Schultz for threatening to "torch" the network.


His ego seems to be getting out of control.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:33 PM
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46. He seems like a total ahole.
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Staph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:28 PM
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42. According to MSNBC themselves,
in a story published on their website in July of 2007....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113455/#Scarborough

MSNBC, Joe Scarborough, host of the "Morning Joe" talk show and the evening newscast "Scarborough Country," $4,200 in March 2006 to Derrick Kitts, Republican candidate for the House from Oregon. Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress from Florida from 1995 to 2001. He also provides political commentary for MSNBC, CNBC and NBC's "Today Show."

MSNBC policy requires journalists to report any potential conflict of interest and to seek approval from the president of NBC News before making any political contribution.

A spokesperson for NBC, Jeremy Gaines, replied to questions sent to Scarborough. "Yes, he did make a donation to Derrick Kitts. Kitts is an old friend of Joe's. Joe hosts an opinion program and is not a news reporter."


Keith did a stupid thing if he didn't ask first. But his show is no less an opinion program than Morning Joe. Were I running MSNBC (oh, I would love to be running MSNBC!), I'd suspend Keith for a few days or perhaps a week for not playing by the rules.


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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:37 PM
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50. Whoa Thetis heavy,,, Rachel we need you more than ever now. Can we get him back on web radio...
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:41 PM by DemocraticPilgrim
His voice must stay out there however we can. 
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:48 PM
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53. Whoa. Did KO once say he didn't vote? So as not to bias himself? Or am I remembering wrong?
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:31 PM
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58. He said that before
.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:48 PM
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54. Fucked up. Joe is no more a commentator than Keith is.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:49 PM by Phx_Dem
Keith doesn't "report the news," he comments on it. He's not fucking Brian Williams. If news breaks while he's on the air and then he reports it, as does Scarwhore and Rachel and every other commentator.

The bit about telling the bosses first is total bullshit. Why? So they can say no to Olberman but yes to Scarwhore?

Edited: Olbermann gets on my nerves sometimes, but so do alot of people. I still like him, and I am boycotting his show while he's "on leave." Fuck MSNBC.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:01 PM
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57. Can't believe they'll fire him over this, he's their biggest moneymaker
Crazy
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:36 PM
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59. What about the contributions that MSNBC doubtless made in secret? Who's suspending
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 02:45 PM by gkhouston
them??
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NJLEFTY Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:39 PM
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60. ratings in the tank

It probably didn't help that his ratings are in the tank.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:45 PM
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61. I called MSNBC... they send you to another line for the Olbermann show.. and the message box is full
I am just shocked..
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:12 PM
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63. This is so unfair, unbelievable nt
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