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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:44 AM
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Obama Needs To Be "Captain Kirk" going forward and not "Mr. Spock."
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 06:57 AM by RBInMaine
The 2010 election cycle may seem like a "disaster," but one must always see the bright side. In some ways, it is a blessing in disguise IF Obama/Dems play their cards right this time.

The R's are convinced the electorate gave them a mandate to return to Bush/Cheney economics: massive tax cuts for the rich, massive deregulation,repealing Wall St. reform, and repealing healthcare reform.

Therefore, over the next two years, Obama/Dems have a GREAT chance to gain ground by LOUDLY, BOLDLY, and CLEARLY advancing their MADE IN AMERICA and REBUILDING THE MIDDLE CLASS agenda in STARK CONTRAST to the GOP plan to go right back to Bush/Cheney economics.

The 2010 election was NOT a massive repudation of Obama/Dem policies, many of which haven't even had time to go into effect and work yet. It was mainly typical midterm cycling compounded by frustration over the recession. When the issues are polled, Dem/Moderate positions win. On the healthcare law for example, most of its individual components poll high, and most people don't want it repealed. Tweaked maybe, but not entirely repealed. I think the R's are overstating their sense of a "national right wing mandate."

I think the next two years is going to see economic improvement, and the GOP doesn't have the votes to repeal the HUGE amount of Dem legislation passed in the last two years. If the Dems play their cards right and MESSAGE right, they can show the R's to be teabagger anti-middle class extremists who simply want to go backwards to the failed past.

What Obama needs to do this time is FRAME and THEME the next two years as the NEW ERA OF MADE IN AMERICA and REBUILDING THE MIDDLE CLASS. He needs to get LOUD, get EMOTIONAL, get POPULIST, and GO PUBLIC bigtime all over the country to town halls etc. Where he went wrong in his first two years was NOT on getting a lot of GOOD legislation passed but on his MESSAGING and STYLE. America needs a BOLD, STRONG, POPULIST, INSPIRING, TRANSFORMATIONAL leader during a recession who can capture the imagination and endearment of the nation, not merely a policy wonk technocrat. Not that Obama didn't get out some during his first two years, but he should have THEMED his presidency better and kept the YES WE CAN and HOPE AND CHANGE theme from his campaign going full steam. Much as was said in a recent OP ED, he instead hunkered down in transactional mode. America elected and NEEDED a CAPTAIN KIRK leader to take us BOLDY FORWARD and all too often we have instead gotten a reserved Mr. Spock negotiator. Keep "Mr. Spock" in the back rooms. Put "Captain Kirk" out in public OFTEN.
(Yes, I love that Star Trek analogy. :-)

Also, there will be divisions among the R's as they struggle to appease their teaparty wing. The GOP will continue to shrink demographically and appear too extreme for the American electorate, and Dems need to exploit this. They are too white and too far to the right for the electorate of the future.

In short, we have a great opportunity to make the R's appear as the Borg while we stand for the great ideals of the federation.

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:46 AM
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1. The problem is he is listening to the Ferengi.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:01 AM
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4. The problem is that is hyperbole
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:06 AM
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6. Deleted
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 07:16 AM by RBInMaine
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:09 AM
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7. analogy/hyperbole, it's over the top
128. Ferengi are not responsible for the stupidity of other races

Did anyone bother reading the whole thing?
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:11 AM
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10. Well, he does need better advice on his messaging. That much is true.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 07:17 AM by RBInMaine
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:12 AM
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11. You may be right about messaging, but
this is over the top and not just by a bit.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:46 PM
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23. OMG that is great. Sounds like Repub rules.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:53 AM
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2. First, he has to take off the red shirt.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:55 AM
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3. Nah, the shirt is plenty blue. Just ask Rachel Maddow.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:04 AM
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5. I wonder if they meant this about the red shirt.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:09 AM
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8. Ah, I see. Then I should amend to "the shirt is plenty yellow." :-)
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:26 AM
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16. Hahaha...This entire Sub-Thread is Hilarious!! Love all these Double Meanings.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 07:26 AM by denimgirly
You guys are funny.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:28 AM
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17. Glad you are getting a good laugh, I am too.
:)
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:43 AM
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19. A fun analogy. But still, the point remains. He needs to adjust his style.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:21 AM
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13. The shirt is Blue as in D, not Red as in R
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:10 AM
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9. I think you seriously underestimate Mr. Spock
Mr. Spock has demonstrated on many many occasions his ability to command and inspire. I could spend hours listing them all but not today. ;)
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:13 AM
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12. You need a Mr. Spock mind but a Captain Kirk demeanor. Obama has both. We need to SEE Kirk. And
c'mon, Spock just ain't that inspiring. THAT is why they have Kirk at the helm.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:24 AM
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15. lol
I like your suggestion, I am just playing with you. Absolutely I agree, and it shouldn't be too hard for Obama to switch gears here, in fact it will come naturally as he fences with the republicans. I think he will have plenty of opportunities to do more inspiring over the next couple years.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:42 AM
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18. Oh I know. A fun analogy, but I think it makes the point.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 07:23 AM
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14. Great overall post, K&R
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:28 PM
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20. KAAAAAAAAAHN!!!
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:31 AM
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39. See # 38
:evilgrin:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:19 PM
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21. Kirk was a craptacular captain
Give me Commander Adama any day.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:44 PM
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22. Nah, Captain Picard was the best.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:48 PM
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26. +1, we don't need a Kirk.
We need a Picard. Too bad Worf left to run for mayor of Chicago.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:24 PM
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33. You dare insult Worf?
I would say Rahm was more of a Quark than a Worf. Rahm has no honor and would sell out all his allies for a price. Worf would fall on his sword before compromising his beliefs.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:46 AM
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45. Would quark slam a knife into a table to make a point? I doubt it.
Here's one I'm trying to figure out: Who in the current situation is Q?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:00 AM
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36. What an insult to Worf!
:puke:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:54 PM
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29. I'll take Picard too
Kirk was a failcaptain.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:30 AM
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38. I'm imagining Obama speeches delivered Kirk style.
*staring intently into camera*
Yes....
We....

KHHHHAAAAAAAAAN!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:48 PM
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24. Fascinating.
BTW, Avatar is playing on HBO right now. :D
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:48 PM
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25. Hehe, Obama going Kirk would lead to another Monica-esque scandal.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:49 PM
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27. Hide the blue interns!
The green ones, too!
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:55 PM
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30. Well, you may have a point there. But, we need an inspiring leader and not a "Spock" type out front.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:54 PM
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28. Obama's got to start beaming down to alien planets in dangerous situations
The Klingons didn't talk things out, nor did they take prisoners ("Search for Spock" was WRONG).

The Congress has been taken over by Klingons. You've got to go down to the planet surface and FIGHT them.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:05 PM
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32. Sorry, but I'm having a hard time imagining Boehner, Cantor and Mitch McConnell as Klingons.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 10:06 PM by ClarkUSA
They're weaselly liars, none of which Klingons are.

Republicans are more Romulan than Klingon.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:29 AM
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37. You're right, of course
Klingons are all about honor and dying in battle.

They're really Ferengi - fearful, cowardly and obsessed with profit.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:35 AM
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40. Klingons are allies now.
Boehner, Cantor and Mitch McConnell are closer to Borg: Lockstep, devoid of human logic, willing to destroy others (and themselves) in service to the collective ideals of the hive.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 09:54 PM
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31. In the runup to November Obama's approval spiked when he went directly to the public..
Did you notice?

When he retreated back to Washington's bubble the RW public relations machine always managed to take him back down in a matter of days.

During the first part of his Presidency he went with a strategy. He played the technocrat who tried working the levers power and relying on his skill to craft legislation. The result was watered down "reform", compromise, detachment and the eventual loss of faith among rank and file voters.

I love your analogy of Kirk going into public and bending them to build public consensus while the policy wonks are left behind in Washington to worry about the details.

One more thing to add; Kirk always beat Spock at dimensional chess. ;)
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:28 PM
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34. Kirk never believed in the "no win scenario" and he rarely compromised
Unfortunately, Obama is just the opposite.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 11:07 PM
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35. He needs a Counsellor Troi:



The White House hasn't had a good "Empath" on the bridge...er on staff, since the swearing-in.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:36 AM
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42. Elizabeth Warren.
:evilgrin:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:36 AM
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41. OK, just not emasculated Captain Kirk, parallel universe Captain Kirk with a beard,
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 01:36 AM by slackmaster
Or Captain Kirk with amnesia, in love with some hot alien chick after being hit on the head.

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:38 AM
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43. Parallel Universe Kirk was evil though...say, that raises a question...
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 01:39 AM by Ken Burch
Does that mean goateed Parallel Universe Rahm would be a nice guy and a Democrat?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:41 AM
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44. I think Parallel Universe Rahm would have gone crazy with peoples' agonizers
It would have been pure Hell to work under him.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:56 AM
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46. K&R for Nerd WIN!
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