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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:39 AM
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Pelosi move is a sign that Democrats intend to fight the GOP, not cut deals
And this is from The Hill, no less.

Pelosi move is a sign that Democrats intend to fight the GOP, not cut deals
By Mike Lillis - 11/05/10 06:23 PM ET


Speaker Nancy Pelosi's aim to remain the leader of House Democrats is an indication the party is ready to go to war with Republicans in the next Congress, not cut deals across the aisle.

The California Democrat is a radioactive figure in many districts across the country, where Republicans parlayed her unpopularity to pick up seats in Tuesday's landslide elections. But she's also a master at energizing the Democratic base, and her liberal resolve, some Democrats say, will draw much sharper distinctions between the two parties than that of more conservative members who might otherwise assume the leadership spot.

"The lesson {of the elections} is not to back down from a fight," Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) said in a statement. "The lesson learned is we need to fight harder for real, fundamental change for the middle-class. And no one fights harder than Nancy Pelosi."

Put another way: "She's in a better position to throw the bombs back at Republicans," a former House Democratic aide said tersely. "I mean, who's the better person to make John Boehner look crazy? It's Pelosi."


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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/127977-pelosi-move-is-a-sign-that-dems-intend-to-fight-not-cut-deals
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:43 AM
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1. He's wrong.
The better person to make Boehner look crazy is...?

Do I really need to say it?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 08:24 AM
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16. But Boehner needs Pelosi's and the rest to put the focus on Boehner's craziness.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:01 PM
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21. Nancy will be a thorn in their side...
She's tough, she's effective and I'm thrilled she's staying. They won't be able to chip away at all the accomplishments thus far without a big damn fight on their hands.

:bounce:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:36 PM
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23. Right, she knows where everything's hidden.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:45 AM
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2. YES. Thanks for this. n/t
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:46 AM
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3. "I'm from Missouri." n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:48 AM
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4. She would make the GOPers cave to her.....esp if she stands on solid principle
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:52 AM
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5. And What If They Don't. They Have Their Largest Majority In History
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 07:53 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
It would be like me telling Wlad Klitschko if he doesn't do what I want I will beat him up
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:58 AM
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9. She and the Dems must not cave...esp on tx cuts for rich
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 08:04 AM
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15. Yes. We Can Prevent Bad Things From Happening
But without our majority we can no longer make good things happen.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 01:36 PM
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18. They must display Principle of Doing the Right Thing for the Nation/Planet
They have to Spine UP and STIFFEN for Whats Best for ALL of us....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:10 PM
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24. Truth, well put. nt
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:10 PM
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22. At least in the House, the R's don't need a single D to vote for tax cuts.
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 06:11 PM by kelly1mm
After January, all Pelosi and the other Democratic House members can do is try to shame R's into doing what they want for the next 2 years. Last I checked, shame is not something the R's react to.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:52 AM
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6. I sure hope they're going to fight - if not, it'll be all Repukes in 2012. nt
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:55 AM
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7. I agree that Nancy and the House aren't ready to give away deals, but they have
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 07:55 AM by Better Today
been the only arena of the three where that's the case, and was throughout the past two years. Both WH and Senate seem to behave more like puppies to the Repubs. I don't see this as an indication that "Democrats" in general, but more specifically "Democrats in the House" intend to fight.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:56 AM
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8. That will be the First Time in 40+ Years. At least its nice to Imagine such things
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:58 AM
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10. Impeachment is off the table,” Pelosi, D-Calif., said during a news conference
I know, she's a hardcore badass. Even if she want going to impeach did she have to cave on Day 1?


http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2006/11/08/cq_1916.html

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi promised Wednesday that when her party takes over, the new majority will not attempt to remove President Bush from office, despite earlier pledges to the contrary from others in the caucus.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 08:00 AM
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11. I am glad she's staying in leadership.
As we have seen, Nancy Pelosi ran the most productive House in decades. There sit 400 bills passed and sent to the senate, along with all that were passed. The repubs didn't like her yesterday and they won't like her tomorrow...let them work in fear of the woman they beat up but came back to haunt them.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 08:03 AM
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12. It will be intersting to see what the MSM says if the dmes vote lockstep against
every piece of legislation the repukes try to ram through.

I would wager that the repukes will be changing the rules in order to pass whatever they want.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 08:03 AM
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13. Hoyer would spend his time appeasing the Republicans.
We better move a little more to the right. Oh, a little
more to the right.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 08:03 AM
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14. Well, that is an interesting concept - I hope it is true. It would be a real reversal
on the part of the Democratic Party, and maybe they could show the Obama administration how it is done. (But I doubt they would listen.)

The GOP fears and hates Pelosi, and I really hope she gets the job.

mark
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 10:19 PM
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26. They passed massive landmark legislation over virtually unanimous GOP opposition
over the past 2 years.

"Fight" must mean something different to you than it does to me, if you think they haven't been fighting.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 09:54 AM
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17. It's nice to see that Pelosi will be fighting against the Republican criminals
now that she's squandered the power to do so.

Of course once the Republicans take control of the House, and she decides to grow a set of balls and a spine, it will be like smoke and mirrors in the grand illusion. But let's white wash the reality and ill effects of her bipartisan complicity to the predator class agenda of making the will of the people powerless and ineffective; to that end she has been a real hero. But, IMHO, she is no more a friend to liberal/progressive values or justice than is the BFEE of whom she let walk scot-free.

And when and if she becomes the minority leader, I'm sure she will put on a great show of empty rhetoric and esthetic grandstanding; something the bought and paid for corporately owned conservative biased politicians do in order to preserve the illusion of two parties, which is more like one arm beating up on the other so as the stupid sheep never see the beast that the two arms are connected too.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:50 PM
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20. + 1 zillion. So she's done with "keep your powder dry"? Bit late, imo.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 10:44 PM
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28. You said it - remember when they trotted out the religous leaders
claiming a triumph on abortion HCR law thanks to their input? And the on again off again public option? And the impeachment is off the table?

Pelosi and Reid have not been good for dems nationwide. Good for centrists, maybe helpful at a local level, but terrible for dems on national setting.

LOL! I have this vision of one ugly beast with a puppet on each hand arguing with himself over some wedge issues, distracting us long enough so that Wall Street can walk out of the bank vault with all the cash :-)

But at least the Catholic Church got to help write our wonderful health care law. A courtesy not afforded to liberals.

She nibbled around the edges, but on matters of serious principals of justice and fairness, she let us down.

This mixing of religion and legislation is more than troubling. I don't give a rat's ass about the catholic church's input to health legislation. It is why we have no laws respecting an establishment of religion.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/politics&id=6975741
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:06 PM
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19. I love Nancy, she's a true liberal, but she's not the person ...........
the person to do this job is Franks.

Franks is just crazy enough to make Boehner start foaming at the mouth.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 07:11 PM
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25. Perhaps they can coordinate their attacks. nt
:evilgrin:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 10:22 PM
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27. Franks is a wonk, not a skull-cracker
But, yeah, he probably would drive Boehner up the wall.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 08:16 AM
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29. I don't view Nancy as a skull cracker either. But I do see her as persuasive .......
and persuasive doesn't work against Boehner. Franks on the other hand is not afraid to step into the fray and sling some mud. Boehner would have a stroke if Franks stood up after Boehner introduced him and Franks said "Thank you speaker Boner."

Bohener would probably reply: "It's bay-nur".

In which Franks would respond: "Not from where I'm standing".

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