Will Social Security be cut while Obama is President?

[ZombieHorde]

Poll question: Will Social Security be cut while Obama is President?

For this poll, I am asking you to predict the future within a time frame.

[Uzybone]

1. No, SS benefits will not be reduced in the next 6 years

[Exilednight]

39. You're partially correct .......

the proposal is that SS cuts will not take place for those that are 55 and older at the time the bill is signed. The real question is, would Obama sign such a bill?

[rug]

2. Yes, and he will express his regrets.

[DURHAM D]

4. and he will tell us it isn't his fault as he is a fierce advocate against change

[donco6]

7. He'll feel really bad about it. n/t

[Aramchek]

8. for some people, the hate will never die. pitiful.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. Sad, isn't it?

Maybe he can just cut their social security? Obviously they want it to happen so badly. :D

[rug]

15. What's sad is the possibility that a Democratic president could.

What's sadder is Democrats defending that.

[Drunken Irishman]

19. The only people who think it's possible are those who hear voices in their heads.

That's the only explanation. That, my friend, is truly, truly sad.

[rug]

22. And those who don't think it possible, hear nothing at all.

And have seen nothing at all. And that is deliberate.

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[rug]

27. And who are you?

You would be wise to be careful about throwing around accusations of delusions.

[Drunken Irishman]

29. It seems you hear what you want to hear...

Which goes right in hand with the voices you probably hear in your head.

Do they tell you burn things?

:rofl:

[rug]

31. No, they tell me to bomb Afghanistan.

[Drunken Irishman]

34. At least you admit you're hearing 'em...

[rug]

36. I'm not rooting bthem on.

[Exilednight]

38. Are these the same people who warned about .........

tax cut extensions for the top 2% that Obama is now talking about?

Or maybe it was the group that raised the alarm that the PO was about to be traded away.

[rug]

16. Did you just wander out of a Bronte novel?

[sharp_stick]

3. There is no way that a Congress in

the next 6 years will cut SS. I'll bet on it.

[Occam Bandage]

5. Not a chance. nt

[Baltoman991]

6. No!!

And those saying he will are just a bunch of right wing tools in the media and those who still haven't gotten over the primaries.

[nevergiveup]

9. If you need to believe that Obama will cut social security

in order to fortify or justify your dislike for him then go ahead and believe to your heart's content but it isn't going to happen and everyone knows it.

[Lord Magus]

11. Obama doesn't even have to do anything.

No such thing will ever make it to his desk. Or to the next President's. Or the one after that.

[ZombieHorde]

20. Fucking with SS is political suicide, but many Republicans want to get rid of it very badly. nt

[Blasphemer]

30. Exactly right... nt

[Umbral]

12. If they change the filibuster rules, the Republicans could likely get enough Dem votes to pass it.

If they don't there are likely enough principled Dems left to hold a filibuster until 2012. And Yeah, if it gets to his desk Obama will sign it. AS always it's all up to the Senate.

[golfguru]

13. SS will be reduced by means testing /

[old mark]

14. I'm not sure, but probably - he will probably cave to GOP pressure on this and

most everything else they can come up with, and we will be TOTALLY under republican/extremist/fundamentalist control after the election in 2012 when they take the Senate and the White House.

mark

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[cornermouse]

18. Carter was a man ahead of his time.

His attempts to get us off of foreign oil. His attempts to make us look toward alternative energy. He was ahead of his time and unlike today's leaders, he lived what he said.

[mikekohr]

21. I thought the Death Panels were going to eliminate the need for Social Security?

Did I miss something? :sarcasm:

[ZombieHorde]

23. Funny. nt

[Imagevision]

24. yeah, by 2075

[fadedrose]

25. It already was cut - no COL increase coming in 201l......eom

[Honeycombe8]

35. That's not a cut. That's an automated thing, based on a formula.

It happens every year...either the formula comes up with a COL, or it doesn't. No one (not Obama, not Congress, not you, and not I) has cut anything.

That is part and parcel of the program. It is written into the SS program. It's automatic.

[Milo_Bloom]

28. Is there any actual doubt?!?!

[Cali_Democrat]

32. Yes and no

It will be cut, but it actually won't be cut.

[high density]

33. This "no inflation" BS is cutting it already NM

[sabbat hunter]

37. depends on your meaning of cut

Do you mean that payments each month to current and future retirees will be lowered? Then no.
Do you mean that retirement age will slowly be raised as per the Co-Chairs draft proposal, then probably
http://www.fiscalcommission.gov/sites/fiscalcommission.gov/files/documents/CoChair_Draft.pdf

[ZombieHorde]

40. Good points. nt