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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:52 AM
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Why wasn't there a concerted call for Repubicans to move to the center after 2008?

Democrats should hold their ground

By E.J. Dionne Jr.

In 2008, the largest number of voters in American history gave the Democrats their largest share of the presidential vote in 44 years and big majorities in the House and Senate.

How did Republicans react? They held their ideological ground, refused to give an inch to the new president and insisted that persistent opposition would eventually yield them victory. On Nov. 2, it did.

Yet now that Democrats have suffered a setback - in an election, it should be said, involving many fewer voters than the big battle two years ago - they are being counseled to do the opposite of what the Republicans did, especially by Republicans.

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Mainstream commentary typically bends to the more audacious side. As a result, there was far less middle-of-the-road advice in 2008 urging Republicans to move to the center than there were warnings to Obama not to read too much into his victory. The United States, we were told, was still a "center-right" country. The actual election result didn't seem to matter back then.

Funny that when progressives win, they are told to moderate their hopes, but when conservatives win, progressives are told to retreat.

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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:54 AM
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1. Um, because Republicans aren't whimps...
...their policies suck, but you have to give it to them. They don't fold like a house of cards like the Democrats do.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:33 AM
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13. Go join their party then
Since their stubbornness is so attractive to you.

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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:52 AM
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23. No, I'll just keep supporting Dems who aren't whimps...
..eventually, we'll get through.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:55 AM
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2. Because, by and large, the corporate media is "in the tank" for the corporate party?
Just a guess.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:55 AM
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3. Because they didn't tell their news media to say it.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:57 AM
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4. IMO, republicans aren't thinking politically as much as dutifully obeying
their benefactors/masters. Someone give me any legislation or policy that has been contrary to corporations, the religious right, and/or richest 2%.
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:57 AM
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5. why?
dems have a complete majority status in both houses. HCR was passed without the need for a single puke vote.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:59 AM
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6. There was, they ignored it.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:59 AM
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7. They lucked out that we were incompetent job creators.
We gave it to them. They didn't win anything.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:08 AM
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8. The President
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 10:09 AM by ProSense
created more jobs this year than in Bush's entire Presidency.

Perception on jobs is one thing, but that relates to 2010.

It doesn't explain why the media didn't make a lot of noise demanding Republicans moving to the center in 2008.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:15 AM
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9. Tell that to people who have been out of work for over 99 months.
There are still ridiculous amounts of applicants for each available job.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:18 AM
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10. What does that have to do with the OP
and the media reaction to 2008?

Seriously, what?

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:31 AM
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11. The Republicans didn't have to move anywhere to win. We gave it up.
They relied on our failure.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:34 AM
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14. Yet they were the job destroyers just two years ago
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:32 AM
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12. Because the M$M carries Republican water
It is so obviously biased.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 11:31 AM
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15. The media is owned by huge corporations who frame news and opinions in their own interests.
That is why the Republicans where not instructed to move to center after 2008.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 12:19 PM
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16. why would they do that when the dems are more than happy to track right?
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 02:09 PM
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17. Yep
From the get-go it was all about reaching across the aisle and 'building consensus' with Republicans. Screw the base, let's make nice with the folks who did so much to improve the standing of the US during the Bush years.

:sarcasm:
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 02:11 PM
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18. Probably because the media only wants to tell democrats what to do
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 02:12 PM by craigmatic
while they accept the repig narrative
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 12:01 AM
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19. there should have been
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 06:17 AM
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20. TRUTH is required when moving to Center....GOPers canardly
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:21 AM
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21. The Eisenhower Repubs have been run out of the party long ago.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:58 AM
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22. Because it is normal
after a loss to say "we lost because we weren't true to our principles". There is plenty of this going on here. A different narritive accompanies victory. He is correct mushy compromise is not a path toward a return to power. It is past time to pick a few issues and make some stands.

If the repugs intend to shut government down, we should make them follow through.
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