Obama doesn't have a choice but to extend the Bush tax cuts

[bigdarryl]

He doesn't have the numbers in the Senate to stop it.Both Joe Manchin and Coons are in favor of the extension and the two will be sworn in and seated before the rethugs take over in January.Even if Congress votes to not extending them the Senate will turn around and extend them.Bottom line there isn't enough Progressive Democrats in the Senate.

[Vincardog]

1. The rePIGs can stop everything with 40 and the Democrats must pass everything with 52? BULLSHIT

[opihimoimoi]

3. + 6678990

[budkin]

15. The filibuster allows for this... but they should be actually made to filibuster

[movonne]

2. Let it expire...and blame it on the repugs when everyone's taxes

go up...but I doubt he will..

[Skinner]

4. That's not correct.

He has the veto.

The Bush tax cuts are expiring. Extending them takes an act of congress, and the president's signature.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Amen

Skinner! Now that said? He needs to start polishing the veto pen.

[proud patriot]

12. +1

:-)

[Exilednight]

13. Bingo!

[Catherina]

23. +1 n/t

[SteppingRazor]

5. Bigdarryl, the cuts expire at the end of the 111th Congress. Manchin and Coons aren't an issue.

The cuts either get extended in the lame-duck session or not at all.

[bornskeptic]

25. Actually the OP is correct on Manchin and Coons

The "special elections" held on Nov. 2nd will allow three senators-elect to sworn in this month, before the new Congress convenes in January. Democrats Chris Coons of Delaware and Joe Manchin of West Virginia will be sworn-in on Monday (Nov. 15) when the Senate returns for its lame-duck session.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/11/08/5430716-coons-manchin-to-be-sworn-in-next-week-kirk-after-thanksgiving

[Hawkeye-X]

6. Veto pen

and it dies. The tax cuts will expire at the end of the year, and there will be a big big fight on whether or not the tax cuts should be reinstated for the middle class - once the Rethugs vote against it, it'll be on their hands and a massive loss on the way in '12.

Hawkeye-X

[bowens43]

8. That's ridiculous.

All he has to do is veto the bill. There are note enough votes to over turn a presidential veto.

[David__77]

9. Of course he can. That is simply untrue.

There are not 67 senators for it.

[Warren Stupidity]

10. pen broken? no pockets?

[Warren Stupidity]

11. and what?

"Even if Congress votes to not extending them the Senate will turn around and extend them" ? it doesn't work that way. If the Senate passes a different bill than the house then the bill is reconciled. The Senate cannot dictate to the House nor the House to the Senate.

[golfguru]

14. I think it is a done deal /nt

[Imagevision]

16. Obama doesn't have a choice? duh! yeah r-i-g-h-t. if anything he could score by cutting Bush tax cut

[Jakes Progress]

17. Ahhh. The excuses are coming in already.

Was there a vote to get to see who got to toss out the first one?

[StarsInHerHair]

18. bull

[Suich]

33. Welcome to DU, StarsInHerHair!

:party: :party: :party:

Have fun!

[ZombieHorde]

19. Oops! We all make mistakes. nt

[ClassWarrior]

20. There's value in fighting a losing battle. If you give up without a fight, you admit you're a loser.

NGU.

[de novo]

21. Bullshit. NO ONE HAS TO DO A DAMN THING.

The tax cuts will expire without any action.

[Dr.Phool]

22. Obama has no balls.

Let all the tax cuts expire, and rightly blame the Republicans for holding middle class tax cuts hostage for the likes of Donald Trump, The Walton and Koch Families, and Paris Hilton.

Blame them. Fight for a fucking change. And if my taxes get raised slightly and temporarily, I'm a Patriotic American, and I can live with it.

This is the line in the sand. As Chris Hayes said tonight on Countdown, "This is the trench you die in". You fight to the finish. Period.

[BzaDem]

24. Democrats can kill all the tax cuts, but they can't kill the rich tax cuts without also killing the

middle class tax cuts (which would be a 3.1 trillion hit to the economy).

[Warren Stupidity]

26. which is why they should keep presenting a bill that excludes the undeniably rich

and includes everyone else, and force the refugnutcants to reject that bill over and over and over again.

[zulchzulu]

27. I'd be glad to make sure Obama's veto pen has plenty of ink in it

You're right on the vote count. I don't think they have a veto-proof majority though. That will be an interesting battle where busting open more debt to the deficit will clearly put the GOP against the ropes for being fiscal hypocrites.

[niceypoo]

28. I will not vote for a supply sider

Period

[Aramchek]

29. you are becoming transparent, Darryl

In one post you explain why Obama has to extend the tax cuts.

In another you jump up and down shrieking that Obama giving in to the GOP by extending tax cuts.

Give it a rest.
Noone is buying it anymore.

[Uzybone]

30. the fact you are still going strong on DU says a lot

about how watered down DU has become

[Uzybone]

31. the fact you are still going strong on DU says a lot

about how watered down DU has become

[niceypoo]

32. I will not vote for a supply sider

EOM