Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Josh Green: How TPM Got Started (love the descriptions of Josh Marshall back then)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:31 PM
Original message
Josh Green: How TPM Got Started (love the descriptions of Josh Marshall back then)
How TPM Got Started



Over the years, I've become increasingly convinced that when all is said and done, the significant aspect of my journalism career won't be anything I've written, but the fact that I was present at the creation of Talking Points Memo, Josh Marshall's pioneering blog. Tomorrow is TPM's 10th anniversary, so for future historians and other interested parties, and in the spirit of wishing Josh and his staff a happy anniversary, I thought I'd share the story of how it all got started.

At the time, Josh was Washington bureau chief for the American Prospect, which was less grand than it sounds. The office was in a ratty downtown building above a magic shop. One way you could mark the change in the election cycle was when the rubber Al Gore mask was replaced by one of George W. Bush, alongside the fake rubber vomit in the display window. The staff consisted of me and Nick Confessore, now with the New York Times. Although Josh must have been about 30, and Nick and I in our twenties, the whole vibe of the place was like some John Hughes movie where the daft parents have gone off and left their adolescent kids run of the house. It wasn't that we threw a lot of keggers or anything. Just that the traditional, grown-up, stuffy "boss" figure was palpably absent, which fostered a wonderfully loose and creative environment.

Back then, Josh was not yet the clean-up, happily married father of two we know him to be today. He was best captured by Matthew Klam in a New York Times Magazine profile that described him as looking "like a wrinkle bomb had hit him." He kept odd hours, slept through deadlines, and then performed insane, Pepsi One-fueled marathons of reporting and writing that produced brilliant journalism. An image lodged in my mind from those days is walking into Josh's office one Monday around lunchtime and finding him sound asleep on his couch in the same clothes from Friday and surrounded by about 30 empty two-liter bottles of Pepsi One (not exaggerating). Point is, he operated on his own clock.

The 2000 election--or more precisely, the recount--was a very Josh-friendly event in that it presented a scenario that, on one level, involved all sort of complicated, byzantine rules and procedures that needed figuring out, which was always a fascination and a strong point for him, and on another level offered clear and outrageous examples of conservative bamboozlement and liberal-establishment witlessness, which was another thing that got him going. Looking back, I can see that TPM was destined to start here.


One day, after a morning of working the phones, Josh came out of his office looking as though he'd imbibed more than his usual liter-age of Pepsi One. He was on fire about some travesty of media coverage related to the recount (looking back at his first post--to read it verité-style, click here and scroll to bottom--it must have been about Ted Olson). I remember him pausing and asking Nick and me, "Dude, do you guys think it would be weird if I did a thing like Kaus is doing?" This was in reference to Kausfiles, which had begun the year before. Nick and I shrugged and said that it wouldn't be weird at all. Then, when Josh disappeared back into his office to create what would become Talking Points Memo, Nick and I decided that actually, yes, it would be sort of weird, because who but a fool would write for no money?

What was amazing was how prolific Josh was right off the bat, reporting and writing and analyzing--recognizably blogging, although at the time no such reference point existed, so it mostly seemed like the manic pursuit of a really smart, idiosyncratic guy who slept on the office couch. Manic, but always interesting. Josh quickly amassed a small but influential Washington readership and started getting tips and intel from them (including some prominent conservatives), and I remember it dawning on me that he had figured out a new way of doing journalism that nobody else had grasped yet.
At the time, it seemed like all this would be in the service of his traditional long-form print career, and so it seemed neat and clever, but not revolutionary in the way that it does today,

That, too, gradually changed. When Josh left the Prospect and began breaking real stories on TPM he started devoting more and more time to it. From the outset, he'd marvel about the relationship with readers, which I didn't fully appreciate until he started up a collection to do a reporting trip to New Hampshire that he had to shut down when too much money came in to spend on one trip. During those first few years, TPM headquarters was the Starbucks at 19th & R in DuPont Circle, where I'd meet Josh and hear the latest updates. It became clear at some point that the blog was going to be his primary career focus, which seemed a little insane, but by that point I was a believer. Ten years later, what's as impressive to me as the journalistic aspect of TPM is how Josh has built it into a thriving business. Because if you knew him in those early sleeping-in-his-clothes years, that is really the only surprise. He was always going to be a great journalist.

http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/11/how-tpm-got-started/66509/


Happy Birthday, TPM!:party:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 10:05 PM
Response to Original message
1. K & R. I couldn't imagine the Bush years without him.


Marshall spent his early journalistic career in traditional media, writing for such respected publications as The New Yorker, The Atlantic Monthly, The New Republic and The New York Times.

In 2000, during the presidential election recount in Florida, Marshall launched the one-man blog TalkingPointsMemo. TPM quickly developed a loyal following of people hungry for intelligent analysis of the day's politics and eager to be part of an intellectually stimulating community. Dedicating himself to the business full time, Marshall grew the site to reach millions of users, hired editorial and business staffs and opened two news bureaus. TPM is now considered one of the most innovative journalistic organizations in the country, marrying the latest web technologies to the highest standards of journalism.

Marshall received a George Polk Award in 2008 for reporting on the 2007 US Attorney firing scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and a Sidney Hillman award in 2006 for reporting on President Bush's attempt to phase out Social Security. TPM also won the IPI award recognizing free and independent media in 2008.

In fall 2009 Marshall was named among the most influential commentators in the nation by The Atlantic Monthly and one of the most powerful people in DC by GQ Magazine.

Marshall graduated from Princeton in 1991 and holds a doctorate in American history from Brown. He lives in New York City with his wife and their two sons.



http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/joshmarshall.php

It's hard to even try to begin to pick out his and his staffers' best stuff over those years, but the hard journalistic coverage of so many GOP crimes and scandals (Abramoff,Cunningham, Delay) and his many inquiries over time into the Niger Yellow-cake forgeries (and the FBI's handling), for example are just a few that really rank up there in my memory of hardly being able to check what was new at his site every single day. Still a fantastic site. I can't think of too many things they've gotten badly wrong for being on the beat every day for ten years, compared to how far out ahead they were most days on so many big stories.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. .
"hardly being able to check" = hardly being able to wait to check

"Delay" = DeLay.

sigh..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. It happens to us all sometimes and it sucks when it is too late to edit.
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 10:53 PM
Response to Original message
2. REC nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:22 AM
Response to Original message
5. When it comes to reliable news sources
I consider TPM to be just about the most reliable there is. And on those very rare occasions when they get something wrong, they correct it immediately, without excuses or defensive bullshittery.

PS: Josh Marshall's kids are freaking adorable!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan 13th 2025, 10:59 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC