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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:36 AM
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Don't Call it Treason
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2010/11/12/144155/34

Don't Call it Treason

by BooMan
Fri Nov 12th, 2010 at 02:41:55 PM EST


What do you call it when the (soon-to-be) House Majority Leader sits down with a visiting head of state and assures him that he and his party can be counted on to side with his country against the president of the United States?

This isn't a hypothetical, by the way. It's not like I'm asking what would have happened if Joachim von Ribbentrop had sat down in Sam Rayburn's office in 1939 and received assurances that Rayburn and the Dems could be counted on to support Germany and block anything Roosevelt did to try to force concessions. Because, in a case like that (which did not happen) we know what we would call it. We know what Eric Cantor would call it.

But, there I go again, bringing up Nazis, which is in such bad taste in this case.

Last night, Netanyahu met in New York for over an hour with incoming House Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.), who is set to become the highest ranking Jewish member of Congress in history. The meeting took place at New York’s Regency Hotel, and included no other American lawmakers besides Cantor. Also attending on the Israeli side were Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren, and Netanyahu’s National Security Advisor Uzi Arad.

Israeli sources characterized a one-on-one meeting between an Israeli prime minister and a lone American lawmaker as unusual, if not unheard of.


Cantor was understandably feeling delighted with his sense of self-importance and could not help but provide a readout of the meeting for the press. Part of that readout said:

"Eric stressed that the new Republican majority will serve as a check on the Administration and what has been, up until this point, one party rule in Washington," the readout continued. "He made clear that the Republican majority understands the special relationship between Israel and the United States, and that the security of each nation is reliant upon the other."


This isn't boilerplate. The president is trying to facilitate a peace agreement between two parties, only one of which is Israel. In that process, Israel must make concessions. Eric Cantor is promising to undermine that process.

And that quite clearly harms our national security.
Let me remind you of General Petraeus's testimony from back in March, as reported by Haaretz:

U.S. General David Petraeus said on Wednesday that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was fomenting anti-American sentiment due to the perception of U.S. favoritism towards Israel.

Speaking to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Petraeus explained that "enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the area of responsibility."

"Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples ," Petraeus said.


Look, I hate how people lazily throw around accusations of dual-loyalty. But Cantor can't behave this way. He just can't. It's completely unacceptable.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:40 AM
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1. K & R. n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:44 AM
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2. "But Cantor can't behave this way"
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 08:49 AM by Botany
Yes, he can because there are two sets of rules one for republicans and one for Dems.. Remember
Eric Cantor made up a story that his office was shot @ and had other republicans bother
and harass freshman democratic House members on the floor so as to make youtube videos and
nothing happened to him.

Cantor and others see the President as the enemy and they are "fighting the good fight"
for their cause and if George Mitchell's work on bringing peace to the Mid East is hurt in
the process so be it. He is also sewing up support in the fundy right wingers who think
that all the jews going back to Israel will start the end times and then Jesus will come back
to earth and burn the gays, liberals, and others in a lake of fire.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:49 AM
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3. at some point, you have to follow the McCain-Palin creed and put Country First.
Hi, Botany. More insight here... I wonder if all the rethugs are on board with Cantor, and then wonder why.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2010/11/13/8158/2884

Country First

by BooMan
Sat Nov 13th, 2010 at 08:15:08 AM EST


I haven't looked at the religious affiliation of the newly elected freshmen class to see if any Jewish-Americans were elected as Republicans, but currently Eric Cantor is the only Republican in the House who is also Jewish. The Jewish community votes overwhelmingly Democratic, and for good reason. I think it is safe to say that the Democratic Party is a stalwart supporter of Israel, and I support that. I think if the Democratic Party had some kind of off-kilter position vis-a-vis Israel that American Jews would speak rather loudly and let us all know. But that is not the case.

What is off-kilter is the Republicans' support for Israel. They don't just support Israel; they support the expansion of settlements in Palestinian territory. And they oppose any concessions that Israel might make to achieve a peaceful settlement with the Palestinians or their Arab neighbors. It's all part of a misguided effort by Wall Street banksters to conquer Jesusville.

That's fine. It's just politics. But, at some point, you have to follow the McCain-Palin creed and put Country First.
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 10:54 AM
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19. here we are,
locked in a bloody war dems vs. pukes. The pukes are entrenched on the high ground and firing laser guided missiles at our center. We respond by throwing spitballs in the opposite direction.

We cannot win this war until we get on the same battlefield as the enemy and shoot in their direction with ammo equal to the occasion.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 08:54 AM
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4. Frankly I think is par for the course
I think this is quite common. The only difference here is Eric Cantor is stupid enough to brag to the press about it. I can easily imagine Netanyahu doing a facepalm when he found out about Cantor's blatherings.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:59 AM
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5. I'm sure several national security agencies have a full transcript of that chat.
Right, Colonel Mike?
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 10:31 AM
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6. cantor's head didn't explode when eh mentioned "one party rule"...
....NOW, and not in 2000-2008! with a president who (over my objection) is going out of his way to placate republicans?

if it were up to me, such statements would be legally actionable.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:01 AM
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7. Since it isn't even close to treason, I won't
despicable, underhanded and dangerous are all words that do come to mind.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:03 AM
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8. yawn...
both parties gave done this exactly for 60+ years.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:42 AM
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9. I guess this only makes sense in a world where Israel is a perfect analogy to Nazi Germany in 1939.
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 11:44 AM by tritsofme
And since Israel is our strong ally, obviously meeting with them does not rise to the level of giving aid and comfort to an enemy. The accusation of treason is ludicrous. Bad form, bad politics, bad policy, sure. Treason? Give me a break.

What bullshit that I need to defend Eric Cantor against such bullshit.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:57 PM
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10. K & R
:thumbsup:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 09:27 PM
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11. kicking through the weekend. . n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:00 PM
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12. KICK goddam,it! . . . ... .. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:10 PM
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13. Republicans will act this way and worse until prosecutions begin...
We either respect the rule of law or we don't - and right now we don't.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:19 PM
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14. It is dual loyalty. Israel's right wing politics has come to America. Seems like a good time to
defund Israel to me.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:19 PM
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16. We won't defund Israel as long as they continue to buy U.S. arms with much of...
...what we give them.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:31 PM
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17. Seems like a cycle of waste to me. All it gets us is the hate of most of the Islamic countries with
little real benefit to show for it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:33 PM
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18. I agree - but the benefit is to arms manufacturers. It takes money from...
...taxpayers and gives it to the war machine (in addition to the endless sums for the wars themselves).
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:20 PM
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15. K and R. It's telling that the outrage from the American public over this matter is miniscule. :(
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:21 PM
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20. Monday kick...n/t
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