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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:18 PM
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So when the very rich don't get a tax break 'it is called raising taxes'
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 02:19 PM by Rosa Luxemburg
Do the Republicans agree with giving the very rich a tax break? Yes they do.

The majority of the public does not agree with giving the rich a tax break or bonuses.

This was not made clear during the November elections.

It is about time Democrats got the message out.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:32 PM
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1. Democrats need to get the message themselves....
..before they can get it out to the people. But they're so insulated in their beltway, 24 hour cable news chattering head lifestyle, all of which is occupied by wealthy people that they just don't understand that themselves. Or I should say not enough of them do.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:38 PM
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2. Perhaps someone should have a quiet word with them
and tell them to get their act together?
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 04:17 PM
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3. THEY ARE GETTING A tax break, just not an out of proportion one!


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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 04:23 PM
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4. I wish we could flash your chart on TV every morning and evening
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 04:46 PM
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5. I have been using it in FaceBook. Notice the difference between the proposed tax cuts
in what would be the largest constituency amongst those experiencing the most increase, i.e. $200-$500K. Apparently Republicans are perfectly willing to enslave all future generations to, for example, our War spending excesses, for something over $400. a year in their taxes.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 04:54 PM
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6. the Republicans should be exposed
pity we couldn't pay for a few ads?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 07:28 PM
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7. That's true.
But I bet my wife's 3% raise increase a couple of years ago was bigger than my neighbor's 3% raise--and a lot less than my mother's lawyer's 3% raise. Was this difference fair? Why not have all raises be in equal dollar amounts?

Well, I bet if your income's $200,000 an inflation rate of 2% costs you a lot more than it costs my family with its $60k/year income and a whole lot more than my neighbor's with their $35k/year income.

Similarly, if you look at the amount of taxes paid you'd see that the amounts for brackets look more like the right-hand "column" than the left. By that token, you already pay little but you get a big tax cut (in %), but if you already pay a lot then the tax reduction is very small and the effect is that in percentage terms you pay even more.

We use % or absolute values discrimately to buttress what we want to convince others of. What "good" is "common" is easily reduced--often cynically--to a function of the means used to display the data.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:17 PM
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10. Your post reads like an argument for a flat tax rate.
Which I think would be fair.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:40 PM
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8. Obama should run on this in 2012.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:33 AM
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9. The GOP will insist that the very rich will have big cuts in taxes, so yes
Obama can say a lot about this
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:58 PM
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11. And upwards of 60% of Americans want to see taxes on those who make over $250,000. So it is
Something Obama could run on.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:17 PM
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12. yes, he could up it to $300,000 for a married couple and then bingo
the rich guys above $300,000 could be taxed a lot. Especially those over $500,000
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:27 PM
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13. Don't forget "Class Warfare" It's only class warfare though
if something affects exorbitant profits of the wealthy. Their raping of the middle class, of course, is something different--more natural.:sarcasm:
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