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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:20 AM
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I believe Newt is running for President...I think he may have a chance to
win the GOP primary, depending how Palin does...Newt is more mainstream GOP than teabagger, but he has "credentials" as a RW extremist that the 'baggers respect, and might be seen as a "consensus" candidate who might actually win, which is pretty scarey to me.

Newt fits the current GOP mold - he has NO principles or morals and no conscience or interest in helping anyone not extremely rich, and he lies continuously.

The way things are now, IF he runs, he may just win.

mark
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:38 AM
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1. Gingrich has lots of negatives...
...and I'm not just talking about baggage from his personal life. He has the history of the government shutdown, the impeachment debacle, the loss of seats to the Democrats in 1998. He's also got a very off-putting speaking style (He'll remind you of an irritating know-it-all neighbor or a hypocritical ex), which I don't think will translate very well in a general campaign.

Barring a personality transplant, I don't think he's going to prove an asset to the 'cans.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:47 AM
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3. I hope you are right, but I think that government shutdown, etc may be GOOD
qualities to many GOP voters, especially the 'baggers.

I really despise Newt, and I hope I am wrong.


mark
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:07 PM
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26. I suspect he wouldn't survive a primary.
I know the 'baggers are flavor of the month with the media and with some in the GOP, but it's not clear yet whether they are behind Newtles or if they are just another faction.

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:04 AM
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8. "personality transplant"...
even w/a turnip, it would be an improvement...:D

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:46 AM
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2. Newt??? In this crazy realm...any thing is pos...and he might just win too...with or without help...
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:58 AM
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4. I'm sure he will run
Not in order to win, but to frame the election in a way that will pull the GOP to the right.

Then he will get out.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:00 AM
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5. If Rubio is on the ticket with him it wll be easy. They will suck up a lot of the Hispanic votes.
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Fruittree Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 09:26 AM
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18. I would hope Hispanics don't vote just on a name..
We vote on a variety of issues like everyone else..
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 01:19 PM
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21. I know that, but I keep hearing that "he won in FL because of the Hispanic vote". nt
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:01 AM
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6. I hope he does win, more baggage there than at Ellis Island...
in it's heyday.

The chances of Gingrich becoming president are just about zip.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:12 AM
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9. I thought the same about Reagan becoming governor of California...
who would vote for that bastard?

Evidently, someone did!
Again, I hope I'm wrong, but he is on a lot of TV and speaking engagements lately, and it makes me feel ill to see so much of that fat little piece of shit again...the media LOVED him when he was speaker, and they still seem to seek him out.(My RWer SIL LOVES Newt..."He's SO SMART!!!")

Mark
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:37 AM
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10. I had to chuckle at the "he's so smart"...
if he was all that smart, why did he leave the House in utter disgrace?

It's not just the personal stuff he has against him, it's the whole inflated assessment of him, he's nothing more than an empty suit attached to a very light head. As with Reagan, it's all "smoke and mirrors"; Reagan was a terrible president...how he ever got elected to anything is beyond me. I still wonder why the R's put him up for president after bashing the "Hollywood Elite", for years...then again, hand him a script, he reads it and "it's morning again in America". Pure drivel, but people lapped it up as if there was some great wisdom in his words. Reagan set the stage for bush, who in turn proceeded to destroy the nation from the day he took the Oath of Office.

Gingrich would be as bad, if not worse than bush, (hard to fathom anyone being worse than bush though).

He goes unchallenged, and that is where people should start, just telling him, "you're full of shit", he can't tolerate anyone that disagrees with him and he collapses immediately.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 08:01 AM
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15. He would start a war with Iran
for sure. It would be Newt's top priority.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 08:38 AM
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16. He is one of those that honestly believes war "solves"
all problems. The man is an idiot, he has pumped up his IQ by nothing more than the infusion of hot air.

I'd love to take his "course" where he teaches, I'd surely get a zero, but it would be worth it to listen to this buffoon prattle on and get a good insight on how the RW distorts Constitutional government.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:04 AM
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7. Meet the Press
Harold Ford lapping up Newts neocon slop. Go home Mr. Ford you are a Biue Dog has been.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:44 AM
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11. Not in any marginally sane world.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:46 AM
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12. The world isn't necessarily marginally sane anymore.
Thanking my husband for being a Canadian once again.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:51 AM
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13. I am thinking that the vestiges of sanity are still around. Underground maybe. But still around.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:58 AM
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14. "He lies continuously."
Yes he does. Especially recently his lies have become Tea Party-like extreme.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 08:59 AM
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17. I wonder why this is so heavily unrec'd - I guess many here only want "happy talk"...nt
Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 08:59 AM by old mark
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 09:58 AM
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19. Don't dwell on the unrecs
I happen to agree with you about Newt, but I think when it comes to rec/unrec it's hard to separate ones feelings.

A recommendation on "I think Newt is running for President and I think he could win" feels like an endorsement of him, instead of "I think you may be right, and that is something we should be aware of sooner rather than later. Thanks for bringing it up." Your wording makes the second conclusion harder to achieve.

I hope you don't take that the wrong way, many, many threads on DU suffer from the same thing. Which is why you can't take rec/unrec as a personal affront, or as some sign about the collective psyche of a particular forum.



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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 10:18 AM
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20. Anyone who reads the post can see that I am not a supporter of that fat asshole.
I really hate the unrec, find it cowardly and ignorant, but hey, that's just my opinion.

mark
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 01:22 PM
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22. I just can't see it....
Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 01:23 PM by GSLevel9
He has skeletons in his closet...

He has poor public polling.

He's just a nasty snarky kinda' guy.

He does come across as smart, I'll give him that.

IMHO.. the only way that Newt gets the nod is as a "Bob Dole" where the economy is fixed and no one else wants to run and Newt is just the sacrificial lamb choice.

EDIT: But he'd need a "rockstar" type Veep choice like Rubio.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 01:57 PM
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23. Bring it...
There are plenty of scandals and oddities to bring his fat ass down. Where do I send a check?


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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:03 PM
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24. He'll run as a stalking horse for Jeb.
Jeb Bush needs about 10 months of cover until Summer of '11. Newt will be Jeb's stalking horse.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:06 PM
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25. I think he'll run too - and he'll beat Obama if the prez doesn't get off this...
...bipartisanshit and fight for Democratic principles in a clear bold way that lets voters know he is fighting for them.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:34 PM
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27. He was their star quarterback in through the Clinton years and was the flag waver

for impeachment. He blew it and the Repugs don't give
losers a second chance
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:36 PM
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28. If it's between him and Palin, he could get the nomination. nt
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:54 PM
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29. That's assuming Mitt Romney won't take a second crack at it not to

mention knuckle draggers like Huckabee, Paul and who knows
what lunatics we haven't heard from. I don't think there
is any enthusiasm for Gingrich or Palin by old guard
republicans. If the establishment GOP comes up with a
strong candidate, Newt and Caribou Barbie will have
a run for their money.

I just don't see a Newt Palin match-up. They're both vanity
candidates with now aspirations beyond winning.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:58 PM
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30. I think Newt is much more acceptable to establishment GOP than Palin...
...and the teabaggers can't stand Romney, so it could happen.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 05:39 PM
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31. Newt will be kissing her ring long before 2012. I think a dark horse will take on Palin
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 05:50 PM
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32. Well, that would be fun to watch! nt
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