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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 01:13 PM
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We Aren't Getting Out of Afghanistan or Even Iraq!
The Evidence Is Overwhelming: We Aren't Getting Out of Afghanistan or Even Iraq
By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com
Posted on November 14, 2010, Printed on November 15, 2010

You must have had a moment when you thought to yourself: It really isn’t going to end, is it? Not ever. Rationally, you know perfectly well that whatever your “it” might be will indeed end, because everything does, but your gut tells you something different.

I had that moment recently when it came to the American way of war. In the past couple of weeks, it could have been triggered by an endless string of ill-attended news reports like the Christian Science Monitor piece headlined “U.S. involvement in Yemen edging toward ‘clandestine war.’” Or by the millions of dollars in U.S. payments reportedly missing in Afghanistan, thanks to under-the-table or unrecorded handouts in unknown amounts to Afghan civilian government employees (as well as Afghan security forces, private-security contractors, and even the Taliban). Or how about the news that the F-35 “Joint Strike Fighter,” the cost-overrun poster weapon of the century, already long overdue, will cost yet more money and be produced even less quickly?

Or what about word that our Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has officially declared the Obama administration “open” to keeping U.S. troops in Iraq after the announced 2011 deadline for their withdrawal? Or how about the news from McClatchy’s reliable reporter Nancy Youssef that Washington is planning to start “publicly walking away from what it once touted as key deadlines in the war in Afghanistan in an effort to de-emphasize President Barack Obama's pledge that he'd begin withdrawing U.S. forces in July 2011”?

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/148848
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 01:18 PM
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1. So long as people keep enlisting it'll go on
Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 01:22 PM by eleny
The way it ends is with a draft, oddly enough.

edited to add: k&r
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:30 PM
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2. Or a simple order from the "Commander in Chief"... (n/t)
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de novo Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:39 PM
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3. War is truly bipartisan, it seems.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 04:43 PM
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4. Obama has locked himself into these wars
He can't get out, and isn't motivated to do so. We need a President who will get us out. Obama's next move should be to announce he's not running in 2012, to give us two years to nominate and elect someone who will get us out of these wars, and do the other things that he should have at least started to do.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 05:19 PM
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5. If Obama is truly locked in, then yes, he should step aside...
I think he can change his mind at any time.

But if his true agenda is actually more in line with the mic than with the voters, he'll stay right where he is.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 05:23 PM
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6. How do you know 'he can't get out, and isn't motivated to do so'? Do tell. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:05 PM
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7. To be fair, he was hesitant and took time (despite the criticism)
to make his decision regarding sending more troops to Afghanistan. (Thanks to Joe Biden!) Unfortunately he went with the Military's proposal, but it wasn't automatic. We'll see what happens now.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:17 PM
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9. The reality distortion field is strong on DU tonight, it seems.
:eyes:
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:03 PM
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8. And the jobs aren't coming back either
Surprise, surprise.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:40 PM
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10. Read Basevich' "Washington Rules"
Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 07:41 PM by ProudDad
It explains all...

Why Obama is just following the same path followed by them all since WWII...

It's the "Permanent War Economy(tm)" and when it ends, corporate capitalism will endure its final collapse...
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