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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:18 PM Original message |
Tearing down the President doesn't help. (updated) |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Tearing Krugman down doesn't help. And honestly, few have the mental capacity to attempt to do so. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The country will survive criticism of Krugman. n/t |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. The "country" would be advised to pay attention to Krugman. He is most often correct. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Krugman is not the President. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I wish we had someone of Krugman's abilities as president but I doubt it will ever happen. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not "utterly"...but boy, has he made some poor choices. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. "The differences between the Candidate Obama and the President Obama are mind-boggling." |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. And the president himself stated he wasn't aware there would be a huge difference. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. What are you arguing? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Protecting the President from criticisim doesn't help either. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The OP is not about criticism. Again: |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. capitulation is not a "policy" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. As long as you |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. I certainly do... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, Obama's tearing himself down sure doesn't help. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Continue. n/t |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's been done from day one. Why stop now? They're all working with one target: |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. Krugman isn't tearing down the President. He's watching and commenting. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. No one said he is. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. I wouldn't know. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. "Tearing down!" |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. What does shoring him up do? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Nothing. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Or doing nothing, which I guess has the same effect anyway? |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. I agree that there is nothing to gain by tearing down President... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Very nicely said Yvonne! |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thanks, saracat... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Yes |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Thanks, Prosense. I think it is also true that... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. We need more far-centers and Reagan Democrats in our base. |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. There is no such thing a far-center or Reagan Democrats. They are |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. There are no such things as the Blue Dogs & the DLCers, conservative DEMS & moderates? |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. They are all conservatives, aren't real Democrats and are the largest |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Tearing down the president and his ideological soulmates does not help. n/t |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Help what? Advance conservative agendas? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Far center and conservative Democrat agendas. It's the best you will ever get. |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. The teevee journalists have a stake in selling you that load of shit. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Easier for us to go work within their framing than to fight against it. |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Wait....what? |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Where'd you go? It was just getting interesting? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Let's stop pretending |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Exactly- we need MORE Blue Dogs and less tearing down of the far center. n/t |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Why is the far center to the right of Eisenhower and Nixon? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. You are operating under the old 60's spectrum. We now have a new, modern one from the 1990's. n/t |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Gee, Doctor |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. Terms like "tearing down" don't help your argument. nt |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
41. I love the desperate spinning. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Which is the |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Almost the entire post |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. This is not |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. More classic spin. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. No spin |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Responded by misquoting and trying to change the subject. |
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sally cat (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Hmmm? Hmmmmmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Spin is easier than reality! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. More "descriptive" than "constructive" |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
47. Why does Krugman refuse to call him President Obama? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
48. Nicely done, as always! K&R!!! n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Thanks n/t |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. K&R! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. Deleted message |
ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. "'cause you insist on painting such a big target on yourself with your OPs..." |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Maybe not |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
64. Anyone think this a joke? |
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