If Congress puts off deciding on the tax cuts, that just pushes the problem to the 2012 election

[Honeycombe8]

If Congress decides to extend all the tax cuts for another year or two, then that just pushes the problem to the 2012 election and campaign. "Vote for us, or your taxes will go up!"

I don't see that as a solution at all, at all.

I think this is why some Republicans (many of 'em?) are indicating they'll go along with that. It's a political move that I hope the Democrats don't fall for.

It was used this past election, and they'd love to use that argument for 2012.

They should make the hard choice, whatever it is, now, and get it behind them.

[DJ13]

1. If theres no agreement all the tax cuts expire

That would be better than caving in to the GOP as far as I'm concerned.

[AndyTiedye]

2. The Repiggies Will Sweep the 2012 Elections if Everyones' Taxes Go Up

[Honeycombe8]

3. You think? It'd be BOTH parties' fault. They'll blame ea. other.

We already know that the Democrats want to make the middle class cuts permanent and let the megawealthy cuts expire. That's been made clear (and they should keep on repeating that on TV, over and over).

I think letting them expire would get everyone angry at BOTH parties. I don't think the Dems would necessarily be mainly blamed.

[AndyTiedye]

5. But What WILL Get Repeated on TV, Over and Over, is That O Vetoed the Tax Cut

We already know that the Democrats want to make the middle class cuts permanent and let the megawealthy cuts expire.

We know that, but a lot of people only know what the Tee Vee tells them, and the Tee Vee will tell them that it's all our fault.

When O is getting less TV time than Sarah Palin, our chances to tell anybody anything are pretty limited.

[Honeycombe8]

11. He won't, because it won't get to his desk. It'll pass only the House.

It has to pass the Senate, too. If Reid does his job (yeah, I know..that's iffy), but if he does, there won't be any bill to veto.

But two years from now, there's no doubt, no doubt whatsoever, that "The Democrats are about to raise your taxes!" will have an effect on the voters. He can make promises, but the issue won't go away. Like this past election.

It's not a good scenario, either way. But if they take the hit now, two years from now, well...people have short memories. There will be another major issue by then.

[dkf]

4. If we extend the cuts now we will never end them.

[DJ13]

6. I also think they want to wait to vote on the CFC bill first

The bigger the increased taxes they can foist off on the middle/lower classes the more leverage the conservatives have to make the upper income tax cuts permanent.

I dont think its a coincidence that Obama targeted the CFC recommendations to be voted on at the same time as the Bush tax cuts were set to expire.

The two items are tied together.

[boppers]

7. Chlorofluorocarbon?

What?

[DJ13]

8. Cat Food Commission

[boppers]

9. Oh, the deficit/debt commission report.

Not a chance in hell of that becoming a bill, even as an idea draft, as nobody wants to touch it, let alone vote on it. It's an equal opportunity :wtf: for all politicians.

[DJ13]

10. I hope you're right!

Its the wrong time to slash entitlements.