Obama can still end up becoming one of the best presidents in history

[mtnsnake]

although it won't be a cake walk, that's for sure.

Unless I'm seeing a different man than the one that trounced John McCain 2 short years ago, I think Obama still has all the tools.

But first he needs to earn the respect of the mega-masses of idiots by standing up to all the Republican liars and cheaters in Congress and sticking to his own values, not theirs. He has always had our respect, but he won't earn theirs by cozying up to Republicans ever again.

Now that he learned the hard way just how much Republicans are willing to help him fix the country, he needs to start blaming Republicans for everything under the sun every chance he gets. Blame them for the lousy economy he inherited, blame them for gridlock in Congress, blame them for lying to the general public, blame them for rainy days. Blame them, blame them, blame them until it finally sinks into the masses of empty brainless heads that Republicans are indeed to blame for everything that's wrong with this once great country.

Obama and the rest of our talking heads need to start getting the point across of just who the bad guys are. So far, our Democratic talking heads deserve an F in that department. We've been letting Republicans run rampant over us with their daily lies and innuendos about the Obama administration, and WE HAVE BEEN LETTING THEM DO IT UNOPPOSED. That shit has to stop right now if we're going to turn this around and win a second term. Whoever is advising President Obama to turn the other cheek and to ignore all the Republican lies should be fired immediately. There is a significant percentage of the country who can figure it out for themselves, but it is not enough. The rest of the country needs to be educated as to who is out to help them and who is out to fleece them, no matter how much dumbing down it takes.

Mostly, though, Obama needs to reach across the aisle with outstretched arms and grab Republicans by their collars, not embrace them. If the last two years have taught him anything, it's taught him that the only chance he'll ever have is a FIGHTING chance. Every rightwing Republican in the country is already out to get him, so what's he got to lose by fighting back and kicking some ass?

He has all the tools, but he just lacks the respect he deserves. No one ever gains the respect of liars, cheaters, and dummies by kissing up to them. He has to fight them and quit being so goddamn nice to those crooked fuckers or they will never stop with their rampant lies.

Oh, and "compromise" should no longer be a word in his vocabulary. Fuck them, they had their chance.

A little Aretha Franklin would go a long ways right now.

[CakeGrrl]

1. K/R for some *constructive* criticism. n/t

[gateley]

2. I so agree! We have an incredible opportunity with this man in the White House -

look over the past few and he's truly an entirely different animal. I don't give up hope, I want him to do what's right for the American People and forget about presenting a bi-partisan image. HE'S bi-partisan, THEY aren't, so let's move ahead. :patriot:

[impik]

15. Maybe if his "supporters" didn't ditch him after one day in office

Now it's too late. Everyone will get what they deserve.

[gateley]

18. It's never too late! He can bring so much! ALL his supporters didn't ditch

him.

[Top Cat]

26. KICK

[gateley]

3. I hope those who are unreccing this took the time to read it. It's wholly supportive

of Obama.

[mtnsnake]

8. Thanks, gately. It doesn't bother me a bit that I'm on "automatic unrecommend" with some

sore losers who have no other way of getting back at me for only speaking the truth in the past. :smoke:

I didn't post this thread to get recs, although that is always a nice bonus if it happens. I posted with hopes that someone from the Administration catches a whiff of it and takes it to heart. Thanks for your support!

[gateley]

10. It's very well presented and I think it speaks for many of us who aren't entrenched

in the love him or hate him mindset.

Thank YOU for the post! :headbang:

[Enrique]

4. all he'd have to do is become a different person

I'm sorry, I'm all for hope, but the things you describe are things that seem unlikely Obama will ever do. Are there any signs at all that he might change in this way? All the signs I see point in the opposite direction.

Oh, and I might as well add "I hope I'm wrong". Yet again.

[gateley]

11. Understand your reluctance to expect a turn-around, but that opinion reminds

me of people in WA State who voted down a VOLUNTARY state income tax on the wealthy (proposed by Bill Gates, Sr.) because they were certain in a couple of years' time we'd all be hit with a state income tax (which we currently don't have). My question to them is, how do you know? Maybe yes, maybe no, but we can't know for sure until we see the results. Same with Obama. There has just GOT to be a point where he throws up his hands and says - I've done all I can, fuck 'em. Don't you think?

[mtnsnake]

16. I don't think he has to become a different person

but I do think that he is left with no other choice but to change his demeanor when called upon to do so and start thrashing Republicans instead of reaching out to them if he ever expects to get the respect that he deserves. Republicans and the simple-minded fools who vote for them are like dogs. Some of them will never give you their respect until you show them who's boss.

All his gracious attempts at getting Republicans to work with us to help fix the country have gone for naught. Not only have all his attempts for some bipartisan cooperation gone for naught, but they've all come back to kick him in the ass for trying to be nice and including them in the deals. If common sense doesn't tell him at this very moment that he needs to tweak his game plan and change his approach towards Republicans right away, then his legacy could be sealed way too early. What a shame that would be.

[ProSense]

5. I don't know

Blame them for the lousy economy he inherited, blame them for gridlock in Congress, blame them for lying to the general public, blame them for rainy days. Blame them, blame them, blame them until it finally sinks into the masses of empty brainless heads that Republicans are indeed to blame for everything that's wrong with this once great country.

Blaming Bush and the Republicans didn't work, and some Democrats have criticized the administration for making that argument.

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. Maybe it didn't work because of the mixed message -

Everything the Republicans did was wrong - so let's meet them in the middle and get their input on fixing this.

WTF?

[ProSense]

9. So you're saying that

the Democrats who were criticizing the "blame Bush" message should have rallied around that message?

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. Absolutely. When what was wrong was his fault, and that of those

who put him in power, how can you 'compromise' and work with them? The mixed message was "you can't trust them, so let's work with them".

Seriously, would you ask for home security advice from the guy you caught burglarizing your house? Particularly when he tells you he'll be back next week to see if it works?

Obama has done some good stuff, he's done some not-so-good stuff, but the worst thing he did was reaching out to the republicans instead of prosecuting them for their crimes.

[ProSense]

21. The solution is

not simply messaging, and if it was, it's not just the President who need to get the memo

[gateley]

13. They blame us for everything! They've even said this is the most partisan

Administration they've ever seen! :wtf:

Maybe not blame them, but as we move ahead and implement changes, when they cry partisanship point out what we wanted to do, and how they prevented it. Over and over again.

I do think we need to message better. Get Rachel out there to explain everything. :7

[Major Hogwash]

24. The Republicans share the blame for just saying "No" to anything and everything.

Now that they have taken back the House, they are just as responsible for the high unemployment their policies CREATED in the first place.

So, returning to their policies isn't going to work, it will just dig the hole deeper.

We have to think "out of the box" and try something that we haven't done yet, and that is working around them with more effective methods of getting something done.
Republicans always want all of the credit for anything good, and none of the blame for anything bad.

But, we need to highlight the fact that the Republicans are a corrupt party, in bed with the banks, and the drug companies to rip off the American people. They fought against a national healthcare plan and are trying to destroy Social Security.
The Republican party has been out to destroy Social Security for 30 years, it is one of the planks of their party platform, whether they admit it or not.

We need to start a national dialogue on creating a national bank and transferring the control of the Federal Reserve to the federal government.
That will never happen, but it will highlight the differences between the 2 parties.
One party stands for banks, and the other stands for the people.

[Mimosa]

6. Heck, yes!

If I did not believe Obama could change course and become a better President I would have just thrown in the towel and finally given up.

I believe we got screwed on Health Care Reform. I don't know if that will get better.

I think it's up to elected representatives -including the President- to support us, not for us to support them. Approval has to be earned.

[impik]

12. America is too stupid for this man. It will never change

[dionysus]

17. but would he be a better president than

Brewer and Shipley?

:hi:

one toke over the line sweet mtnsnake, one toke over the line

standing downtown atthe railway station, one toke over the line....

[veganlush]

19. only one problem: he doesn't see it that way at all

apparently. He is STILL talking about common ground, working together, bi-partisanship,..etc...

[Dr Fate]

20. I still hold that belief in my heart. n/t

n/t

[grumgrum]

22. He needs to be a Populist -- For the People

He listens too much to republicans. He has some hints of caring for the middle-class but he seems more afraid of republicans than anything.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. I have no argument with that........ Which begs the question. Why am I replying? I don't

know. Great now I'm fucking talking to myself.

[polichick]

25. I agree, he does still have a chance to be an extraordinary president...

It's up to him - and I hope for all our sakes that he goes for it!

imo he should work with Dems to further policies already underway and use every single presidential tool in his belt - ignoring Republicans as if they don't exist and kicking their asses when it's impossible to ignore them.

(And I don't think it's a good move to meet with the assholes now that they dissed him.)

[boppers]

27. Damning with faint praise.

K&U