I'm pretty sure very few Americans saw Obama's brilliant press conference just now

[impik]

And then we're surprised why voters are so dumb.

[hlthe2b]

1. Well, I doubt DUers are among the "so dumb" group, but...

I also doubt many heard it as well. I certainly did not. Why not tell us about it?

[Better Today]

43. I didn't either. His talk no longer interests me. I'm waiting to see

leadership that doesn't involve apologizing and caving before negotiations even begin. When he starts that way, the Senate seems to follow, hence all of Nancy Pelosi's hard work just goes down the drain.

[Fruittree]

73. Nice attitude...

[jenmito]

2. At least they SHOWED it on MSNBC and CNN. We'll see how the media spins this that will

be more important.

[otohara]

3. I Missed It

:(

[jenmito]

4. It'll be on the web soon, I'm sure. n/t

[rug]

5. The one where he defended airport patdowns to defend us from underwear bombers?

"The president also defended aggressive airport security pat-downs during the news conference. He said they are necessary to protect passengers from terrorists who try to hide explosives on their bodies, such as the "underwear bomber" who tried to blow up a plan last Christmas."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/11/obama-holds-nato-news-conference/1

It was brilliant.

[HipChick]

12. Defended? He can't win for trying..and the next time there's an incident he'll be blamed

that he didn't do enough to keep us safe..

[rug]

26. Yes, defended. What would you call it?

It's an indefensible, unintelligent and ineffective policy. And to support it so as not to appear weak is even worse.

[StarsInHerHair]

50. the Right managed to shield W after that certain incident

I for one demand the Left start being competent & quit being the Other Right. At least go down fighting.

[truedelphi]

36. Being almost sixty, I almost eagerly await the pat downs.

Maybe they could serve us Schnapps and coke, and play old rock tunes in the waiting lines, to make it more like Frat Parties.

(Trying to put a light spin on this - but in reality I don't think I will ever fly again.)

And I don't really expect He of the Geithner, Monsanto appointments and endless visits to the illegal G 20 affairs to protest anything on behalf of our nation's real needs and priorities.

Especially if it involves my legal civil rights.

[Better Today]

44. He really did that? OMG, what a jerk.

[AlinPA]

58. You are on DU and call President Obama a jerk?

[Better Today]

60. Since the foo shits, yeah.

[Stoic]

6. I missed it

But, after two years of "brilliant" speeches, I no longer measure Obama by what he says, but only by what he does and tries to do. He's very good at talking the talk.

[Lint Head]

7. What's so brilliant about

losing our search and seizure rights when Bush gets away with murder and torture?

[tritsofme]

8. Yea, I doubt very many people watch news conferences on Saturday mornings.

If he had something important to say, it would be scheduled for prime-time.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. I was watching my grandson play soccer

[de novo]

9. I didn't see it, what was brilliant about it? How about a link to

a transcript or a video?

Without that this OP is entirely void of any substance.

[Skittles]

10. he gives purty speeches

[jenmito]

17. He's also very intelligent and gives detailed responses during press briefings like the one today.

[Skittles]

56. yup, he gives purty followups

[jenmito]

57. Nice try. Giving speeches and answering questions are two different things and

involve two different skill sets. Trying to belittle him by calling everything he does "purty" says more about you than it says about Obama.

[Skittles]

61. everyone knows he's great at communicationg

HELLO

[jenmito]

62. Answering questions intelligently isn't "purty." HELLO. n/t

[Skittles]

63. sure it is

[jenmito]

66. Your attempt to belittle him is a big FAIL.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

70. So what would not answering them intelligently be?

[LittleBlue]

11. Who cares about a press conference?

Voters are waiting for results, not words.

When people start to understand that, maybe we can stop our election losses.

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[de novo]

14. You wouldn't understand, you don't deserve HIM!!!

:P

[bigwillq]

34. We're not worthy, we're not worthy.

:rofl:

[JNelson6563]

52. Have you really only been here for 21 days?

Interesting.

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[jillan]

15. I just walked in the door - what did I miss???? I'm not dumb, just busy.

[de novo]

18. The OP has nothing more to say on this.

You clueless American, you missed the brilliance.

[FrenchieCat]

20. Here.....

The video: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40289750/ns/travel/


And yes, many Americans are clueless....and even you wouldn't deny that fact.

As for Brilliance......This President may not be doing the job that you would have
done if you were President, but he is doing a good job; not perfect, but he is doing
what he feels he needs to do; and that is why we elected him; to give him that chance
to govern; or so I thought!

[de novo]

23. Thank you for some actual content.

[dennis4868]

33. I am sure that if one of the DUers here....

Who are always bashing Obama and being negative about him would be the president they would be able to get all legislation passed as they originally wanted it too look like even with the republicans/DINOs successfully fillubustering the vote. A president is NOT a king.

[FrenchieCat]

19. It was a good press conference.......

but the only thing that most will care about is that one sentence that
they can find that they will criticize, cause that's the only thing
folks are looking for. So in essence, if he states 40 things that were
consistent, strong and true.....if that 41st thing isn't quite what one
had in mind, then the whole thing is flushed down the toilet, and the
inferences and speculations begin for that 41st item.
That's when meanings are conjured up, analyzed, criticized,
and made into mountains, just cause it can be done.

It is a situation that he cannot win or get good reviews for,
and that is what most would prefer; to find fault and something to
hang him with.

If he talks, no one cares, because he talks a lot, and it's what he does that counts.
If he acts and doesn't talk, then he didn't use his bully pulpit and connect, and is
out of touch and cold, uncaring....and only if he could explain things better,
using more soundbytes and red meat sloganeering like the Republicans do
(cause they are so wonderful, but not really or whatever!)

Something like Airport security.....
is a place that he cannot win, no matter; he's at checkmate.
Folks don't all want to be sujected to pat downs,
don't want to have to walk through machines,
don't want to give up their liquids,
don't want to have any particular type of person profiled,
don't want to have to take off shoes, or wait in line,
don't want to do anything themselves to insure safety,
but yet they want to be safe, and it be done as magically as possible,
without any involvement from them,
and certainly no discomfort, inconveniences, or delays are to be allowed.

and if something happens,
there will be hell to pay....
for the President that is,

because as of January 20th, 2009,
anything that happens that's bad
is due to what the President should have known to do
that he didn't do,
or something that he did, that he shouldn't have done,
or whatever fits the occasion.
no matter.

[jonnyblitz]

21. I learned what a wonderous president Ronald Reagan was in

President Obama's weekly address! Yes, Obama speeches make me much smarter!! :patriot:

[Codeine]

22. We're dumb because we're not parked in front of a television on a Saturday?

Damn.

[FrenchieCat]

27. No....of course not!

I think poster is experiencing frustration, considering
that the negativity is quite thick around these parts,
and sometimes it is easier to deal with negativity with
a sarcastic approach that is negative back in return.....

At this point, Poster, as do I, anticipate the negativity,
because that is about all that is articulated on these boards.

I was reading a letter written that best describes
what many in our community are currently feeling....
and poster belongs to that community
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=258x10769

Certainly it isn't all folks within our community who feel this way,
but let's just say it is probably about 96%, if not more,
who indeed unfortunately feel the acute and degrading daily pile-on
which eminates loudly from various camps (the Right, the media, the left, etc...)
and come together in a tight package full nothing but negativity.

For those of us who see things slightly differently from how you may see them,
the various reactions, name calling, know-it-all-much-better attitudes
become tiring and....

for many of us who had wanted Obama be at least be allowed to govern using his own mind,
without having mainly only massive feet shoved up his ass everytime he doesn't do as is envisioned by his many, many critics, it just plain sucks on a daily basis....not because of what he does or doesn't do, but because of the lack of support....as folks don't look for the good, don't talk about it, and don't appreciate it or respect it anyways.

And so.

[treestar]

29. I took it generally

I missed it and didn't even know there was one. I miss most of them.

No reason to take it personally. Americans are dumb.

[whathehell]

47. Speak for you and yours, Treestar

I'm not "dumb" and neither are any of my friends or family.:shrug:

[AndrewP]

38. Yeah! I'd better quit volunteering at the animal shelter on Saturday and watch TV!

[elleng]

24. This one, for 'uninformed' DUers?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x528076

Concerns START, and kyle:

'about Kyle standing in the way of the START. He detailed out three lenghty reasons why it should and will get passed.

See the video. I realize that Kyle isn't capable of shame. But Obama even pointed out the political aspects behind Kyle's resistance. The answer to the reporter's question was excellent, measured and thorough.'

[cherokeeprogressive]

25. Fuck if I'll spend Saturday mornings searching for meaningless Presidential press conferences.

I can think of over 12,5000 things I'd rather do on a Saturday morning than to see President Obama speak at a meaningless NATO conference and Number One on that list would be simply sleeping in. I don't hunger for visions of the man or thirst for the sound of his voice like some DU'ers seem to do. I'm done with all the talk. Show me the walk now.

Unemployment is 9.6% and that's a low-ball figure. Nothing else should matter. President Obama, come home and concentrate on improving on what seem to be promising trends in the last few months. Your Secretary of State could have represented you ably at a NATO conference.

Do tell though impik; what was said this morning that was so brilliant you count it to be educational to voters who won't be casting ballots again for almost two years?

[FrenchieCat]

28. I bet one of those 12,5000 things that you'd rather do

is respond to this post on this forum on the Internet! Yeah! :applause:

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[elleng]

31. ...

:thumbsup:

[cherokeeprogressive]

32. Hardly

What I responded to was the implication that I and everyone else who failed to see a supposedly brilliant but nevertheless meaningless press conference from a NATO meeting on a Saturday morning are less educated voters than we would otherwise be had we been awake to watch a supposedly brilliant but nevertheless meaningless press conference from a NATO meeting nearly two years before we'll cast another ballot.

That about clear it up for you?

[phleshdef]

51. Oh get off it with the victim BS. Impik wasn't implying the kind of people that frequent DU anyway.

He was talking about the low information types that don't pay attention to whats going on at all and then go vote against their best interests. I know you have more common sense than to actually believe he was talking about you. Save your anger for something you should actually get angry about.

[Still a Democrat]

35. Someone should have said the teabaggers would be rallying there

The media would have been all over it.

[bigwillq]

37. Hello

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Still a Democrat]

39. Thank you!

:hi:

[pnorman]

40. I just cancelled out an unrecommend (sigh!)

The comical thing is when an anti-Obama OP appears, they go into CONVULSIONS when that happens to them! ("The Un-recc Gestapo is in full force!")

[bigwillq]

49. I un'recd

Because of the OPs lack of content and insinuating I am dumb because I didn't watch.

[pnorman]

64. I too dislike such OPs, that are almost content-free exept for the subject line,

Normally, I'd have let it pass without comment, until I saw the rec. number diminish before my eyes. But what I had said earlier about the anti-Obama gang doing most of the hollering about the "Un-recc. Gestapo", should be apparent to most here.

I've been off the TV matrix for over a decade, and I'll wait till the entire interview is on-line before making any definite judgment. And YES, I'm thoroughly pro-Omama by now, so I'll probably give him the benefit of the doubt if there should be any. Is that so bad?

[jonnyblitz]

67. I unrec all cringe worthy personality cultish posts that make

no fucking sense. People are dumber because they don't listen to a politician make a speech? give me a FUCKING break. :puke:

[pnorman]

68. The Obama-bashers are turning into a cult of their own,

using words & phrases with special meanings, known only to the initiates. And how they HOWL in "righteous indignation", whenever THEIR threads get un-recced!

[Better Today]

41. y'know, I've never said that the man can't speak, but he sure can't lead.

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[Better Today]

59. As do you with your constant refusal to look at the whole picture

instead of just the little slices that tickle you.

[jefferson_dem]

42. People don't bother with such "source data"...

They would much rather wait for others to tell them what to think. Sheep.

[patrice]

46. This is because they lack their own step-by-step-how-to discover what something means.

a.k.a. a problem solving heuristic in cognitive pedagogical jargon.

[patrice]

45. We need our own network. I would gladly pay what I'm paying now for cable tv that I hate.nt

[bigwillq]

48. Does missing the press conference mean you're dumb?

:shrug: Someone help me out here. :rofl:

edited to changed "interview" to "press conference" in subject line. Don't know what I said interview. :rofl:

[TheKentuckian]

55. Some of us can know what is going on well beyond Saturday press conferences

Some know nothing beyond what they are spoon fed from favored establishment sources from Obama to Wolf Blitzer to Couric to Fox and as a result know precious little.

[Raine]

65. I don't hang on Obama's every word any longer

because what he says is just meaningless. I wait to see what he does and so far all I've been is disapointed and disallusioned. :-(

[democracy1st]

69. +1 he's talking pure bs!

[old mark]

71. I was watching re-runs.nt