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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 05:58 PM
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Media Matters: Fox Nation falsely portrays Obama as clueless on TSA procedures

Fox Nation falsely portrays Obama as clueless on TSA procedures

by Karen Famighetti

An article that appeared on Fox Nation today bore the title, "Obama admits he has no clue how intrusive TSA searches are" and linked to this USA Today article, entitled, "Obama calls airport pat-downs frustrating but necessary." The Fox Nation item also included a partial video of remarks Obama made today in Lisbon about the new TSA security procedures.

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In fact, as the full transcript of Obama's comments shows, Obama never "admit he has no clue how intrusive TSA searches are." Rather, after Obama acknowledged that he doesn't "go through security checks to get on planes these days," so he hasn't "personally experienced some of the procedures that have been put in place by TSA," he said "what I've said to the TSA is that you have to constantly refine and measure whether what we're doing is the only way to assure the American people's safety. And you also have to think through, 'Are there ways of doing it that are less intrusive?'"

Obama later added: "(E)very week I meet with my counterterrorism team and I'm constantly asking them whether is what we're doing absolutely necessary? Have we thought it through? Are there other ways of accomplishing it that meet the same objectives?"

Fox Nation later altered the article's title to "President Defends Touching Junk But Makes a Confession..."

From Obama's remarks in Lisbon:

With respect to the TSA, let me first of all make a confession. I don't go through security checks to get on planes these days. So I haven't personally experienced some of the procedures that have been put in place by TSA. I will also say that in the aftermath of the Christmas day bombing, our TSA personnel are properly under enormous pressure to make sure that you don't have somebody slipping on a plane with some sort of explosive device on their persons. And since the explosive device that was on Mr. Abdulmutallab was not detected by ordinary metal detectors, it has meant that TSA has had to try to adapt to make sure that passengers on planes are safe.

Now that's a tough situation. One of the most frustrating aspects of this fight against terrorism is that it has created a whole security apparatus around us that causes huge inconvenience, for all of us. And I understand people's frustrations. And what I've said to the TSA is that you have to constantly refine and measure whether what we're doing is the only way to assure the American people's safety.

And you also have to think through, "Are there ways of doing it that are less intrusive?" But, at this point, TSA in consultation with our counterterrorism experts have indicated to me that the procedures that they've been put going place are the only ones right now that they consider to be effective against the kind of threat we saw in the Christmas day bombing. But I'm gonna -- every week I meet with my counterterrorism team and I'm constantly asking them whether is what we're doing absolutely necessary? Have we thought it through? Are there other ways of accomplishing it that meet the same objectives?



On the Republican side:

GOP FLOATS TSA PRIVATIZATION....

In recent months, we've heard Republicans raise the specter of privatizing a wide variety of services. Social Security, Medicare, Veterans Administration hospitals, and even the Centers for Disease Control all became targets.

But as travelers grow more frustrated with heightened airport security, it appears Republicans are opening a new front on the privatization crusade.

A Republican lawmaker, who is faulting big government spending, is suggesting that airports dump the Transportation Security Administration altogether, and opt instead to privatize security.

And some airports, fed up with poor service in a climate where travelers are outraged about the prospect of full-body scanners, are listening.

The consideration comes after Florida Republican Rep. John Mica -- a longtime critic of the TSA -- wrote letters to the country's 100 busiest airports earlier this month asking them to switch to private security.

Mica is poised to become chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, so he'll be in a position to advance this issue.

There are a variety of angles to consider here. Note, for example, that private companies that stand to benefit from privatization also happen to be generous campaign contributors to Mica's re-election campaign.

Even more importantly, several domestic airports already use private screeners, but it's still the TSA that establishes mandatory security standards. If Mica or other Republicans want to have a conversation about whether those security measures are appropriate, that's fine. But whether those doing the screening are public employees or private contractors doesn't change the standards themselves. Selling this as some sort of cure-all for frustrated travelers is silly.

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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:00 PM
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1. FOX lied????
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! :-)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:28 PM
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2. Fox lies
So glad Media Matters is on it.



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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:34 PM
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3. False Fox can go jump off a cliff
I'd just play all their WAY OFF predictions for our invasion of Iraq 24/7, the effects of W tax cuts on our economy, etc. Just show how wrong they've been on everything in the past & drown out their recent propaganda, since it's all fake anyway. We're at war & our survival is at stake, it's time we started behaving appropriately.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:02 PM
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4. The President is clueless
Here's a quote from him:

"But at this point, TSA in consultation with counterterrorism experts have indicated to me that the procedures that they have been putting in place are the only ones right now that they consider to be effective against the kind of threat that we saw in the Christmas Day bombing."

That jihidi idiot wasn't even screened in the US, he slipped through Third World "screening", with his chestnut-toasting underwear entering US airports unobserved, and unobservable. If we screened all passengers arriving from foreign airports, especially those from particularly dangerous places, we'd stop the threat without having to sexually assault nuns and three year olds flying from Wichita to Grand Rapids.

This President already has a problem with being considered out of touch by a large part of the American public, his comments on this subject just confirm that. I wonder if he'd be so blase about it if his two daughters got felt up by some TSA jackboot.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:19 PM
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5. "he slipped through Third World 'screening', with his chestnut-toasting underwear entering US"
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 07:21 PM by ProSense
So is the TSA screening better than "Third World 'screening'"?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:45 PM
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8. From the sound of things
It seems to be way-ass more thorough. The jihadis know which of the world's airports are the weak links in the system, all they have to do is bribe their way through, and then you can get into any airport and any commercial airplane in the world.

Screwing over American citizens with squeeky clean backgrounds is not going to catch this type of terrorist.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:47 PM
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9. Well, maybe
the Republican are onto to something. Abolish the TSA and go back to the way it was before:

The TSA was created by the federal government in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks. Prior to its creation, security screening was operated by private companies that had contracts with either an airline or a consortium contracted by multiple airlines that used a given terminal facility.

With the arrival of the TSA, private screening did not disappear completely. Private security firms were approved by the TSA to provide security, but under the authority of the TSA.<2> Under the TSA's Screening Partnership Program (SPP), privately operated checkpoints exist in the following airports: San Francisco International Airport; Kansas City International Airport; Greater Rochester International Airport; Tupelo Regional Airport; Key West International Airport; and Jackson Hole Airport.<3><4>

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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:56 PM
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12. Even the Repigs know that the Patriot Act
and all the bullshit that flows from it are too much indignity for the American people to swallow. They were relatively successful at convincing the sheep that it was their patriotic duty to go through your dirty underwear in your luggage on the return trip home, but it's impossible to sell genital groping and nudity when a Democratic President is in the White House.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:48 PM
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17. Actually the Netherlands
screening that the "non-Christmas Day bomber (there was no bombing)" slipped through was handled by ICTS an Israeli company. Do the Repubs want to put them in charge in the USA?

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israeli-firm-blasted-for-letting-would-be-plane-bomber-slip-through-1.261107
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:34 AM
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21. He was a known threat and on the no-fly list. He never should
Edited on Sun Nov-21-10 06:35 AM by sabrina 1
have gotten near an airport. He was given a visa despite warnings even by his own father, that he was a dangerous threat. Now, it is said that they actually helped him get past security in order not to blow some investigation into Al Queda, and there are questions as to whether his underwear bomb was a stunt, whether he was working with our intel people, as the terrorist from the 1993 WTC bombing was.

One thing is certain, it was the State Dept. that made it possible for him to get on a plane and he would not have been scanned, as he was apparently 'special'.

But the terror profiteers, like Chertoff, quickly used him as an excuse for those scanners, just as Bush jumped on 9/11 to get the Patriot Act passed.

Sad to see Obama pretending he doesn't know the details of the underwear bomber, and thinks we are going to be fooled, as Bush was able to fool his followers, by these immature scare tactics. Obama knows damn well that the underwear bomber would not have been stopped by a scanner, so why is he lying to us?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:55 PM
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11. Profiling, huh?
Fits nice on a bumper sticker, and the right wing echo chamber love that "solution". Fact is...besides the questionable consitutionality of such a program...it would actully make us less safe.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:00 PM
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14. I prefer profiling to treating every American citizen
just trying to get from point A to point B in his or her own damn country as a terrorist.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:07 PM
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16. I bet you would.
Let me guess... You're a white, "educated", non-Muslim, 'mercan, right?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:34 PM
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19. I'm a naturalized American
and it shouldn't be that damned hard for the TSA thugs to figure out that I'm not a threat to anyone. I'm more than willing to hand over a Franklin so they can do a background search, and give me a card that I can slap into a machine to squint into for an iris scan, and just let me go on my way.

If there were such a system in place, they could 'profile' only the people who didn't want to bother with it. Like real terrorists, for example. But they always fly into sanitized airport space from the weak security in other nations.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:23 PM
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6. He's wrong, misinformed, and sounds like bubble man
Sick of it, really. A real leader would have the whole thing, both styles, done to his entire family on TV. Including MIL and Valerie, both kids and Madame First Lady.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:31 PM
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7. He's an idiot
Really easy to say anything.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:52 PM
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10. You do realize the level of "privacy invasion" POTUS has to go through on a daily basis...
Little, if any, of his life is actually "private" at all.

We are all sick of it. Really. Hope you enjoy your silly snarkiness anyway.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:59 PM
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13. What does his family have to go through
that rivals being felt up in front of strangers at an airport? Most of the indignities they have to go through are done completely in private, by highly trained people who are way more educated (and fearful of losing their jobs) than the average TSA jackboot thug.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:03 PM
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15. So your problem is that uneducated "jackboot thug" TSA agents are "feeling up" strangers.
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 08:04 PM by jefferson_dem
Based on that heavy hyperbole, I really don't see how we could engage in anything remotely close to a rational discussion on the matter. Cheers.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:56 PM
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18. I fault them for failing to use common sense
when doing their job. Taking out their frustration at not being able to actually catch any real terrorists on the American traveling public is what I have a problem with.

Maybe you're OK with that.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:23 PM
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20. Goldman Sachs admin bought and paid for.
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