To those in the media who oppose TSA security measures-I say this

[Politics_Guy25]

Don't come crying to me when your seatmate is Mohammed Atta's protege and he storms the plane with 4 of his buddiee with boxcutters and crashes your plane into god knows where. You made your bed. Time to lie in it.

Or is terrorism dead, 9/11 never happened and there is no need for security now?

[jpak]

1. They can't have it both ways - and the RW Obama bashers would howl if there were another attack

yup

[Politics_Guy25]

4. Yeah the reaction to an attack on the watch of 44

would be reprehensible. 43 was made into a hero when his country got attacked and 44 would be made into a pariah. Sick sick sick. That's why we have to do everything we can now to prevent an attack, including TSA security measures. SO FUCKING WHAT if someone touches "your junk"?-to the blogger who said that.

[de novo]

5. He will be blamed regardless.

In fact, by taking such ownership of these new practices, they have set themselves up to more easily be blamed.

Why elevate terrorism to have such power over us?

[Ikonoklast]

2. I'll give you two choices for your flight.

The first choice is every passenger of that flight has been processed through the TSA procedure.

The second choice is, some passengers have been checked, some haven't. You have no way of knowing which have been checked, or if indeed, anyone has been checked.

Both planes are identical in every detail, going to the same destination, fares are the same, etc.



I already know which flight I'd choose to take.

[de novo]

3. Boogey boogey boo!

They have been stopping box cutters from making it on board for years. These new procedures don't increase safety, only fear.

Fuck terrorism. Why do you still want to live in fear?

I know a better way to prevent terrorism. We could quit blowing up people in far way lands. We have a generation of chickens that have yet come home to roost. Good intel and police work are better investments for our resources than sacrificing our civil liberties.

[daleanime]

6. Hell yes....

:applause:

[Autumn]

9. Now that I can get behind

Bravo:applause: :applause: :applause: What is going on is all bullshit. "Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for temporary safety, deserve neither." That man was very smart and not a wuss.

[sarge43]

11. +1 Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. n/t

[ibegurpard]

17. yup

I can't believe people on this board are actually buying into this crap.
You think we're going to stop someone so determined they're willing to die?
you combat that by realizing you're more likely to die from slipping in your shower and not giving them the power over you that is the reason they're doing it in the first place.

[Catherina]

18. Thank you for saving me the trouble. I recommend your post n/t

[Slit Skirt]

7. boy ...did you buy into the bullshit...

got some swamp land to sell if you're interested



...once you succumb to the fear they are shoving down your throat, there will be no limit to what freedoms they can take away and you will gladly give them up. I think of Americans as being brave and not cowering to a power that's jerking us around. what's next...lock us up for 24hrs till we pass the security backround check?..and then you can get on the plane and still sit next to Mohammed Atta's protege cause they figured out how to buck the system...

we could go through pat downs everytime we enter a mall or stadium or trainstation or?????...how would that suit you?


This is about scaring the public, seeing how far they can push the envelope...and selling scanners to the TSA and making a bundle of money....

[Loge23]

8. Odd post, even greater odds...

... of being involved in a terrorist event on a aircraft: 1 in 10,408,947
Odds of being struck by lightning: 1 in 500,000

Hey OP, hold my nine iron for a minute while I give back these rights that I'm not using.

http://www.helium.com/items/1931005-your-real-chances-of-being-harmed-by-a-terrorist-attack

[sarge43]

10. No, terrorism isn't dead. Ask the people of Oklahoma City about that

or the crew of the USS Cole.

Groped or x-rayed at every mall entrance, every sports stadium, every freeway entrance, every store, every factory, every building, every passenger train, bus, everywhere two or more people gather. Don't come crying to me when you're treated like a criminal every time you leave your home.

[high density]

12. I find it terrorizing to get strip searched and/or groped to fly

If somebody wants to slit my throat on a plane they could do so with an aluminum soda can. If one person out of more than six hundred million US passengers a year wants to light his underpants on fire, I guess that is a risk we will just have to accept.

[mstinamotorcity]

13. This op is ridiculous

This isn't about Terrorism. Its about Privatization.We all know terrorism exist and we all witnessed 9/11. But when you see repugs circling the wagons around an issue,please believe they are the ones who create the issue in the first place to get their end result. Every station on the News is talking about privatizing the Screeners at the TSA. Which means some repug friend is going to get the Government contract for our Nation's Airports.

[pansypoo53219]

14. pfft.

everybody is guilty now. what ben franklin said on security. the terrorists have won when we let them treat us as criminals.

[CreekDog]

15. all our bomb security is aimed at people with medical issues

not terrorists.

you argue we need security --we don't have security.

[GentryDixon]

16. It does get tiresome trying

to fight these folks. Their manufactured news/hysteria has destroyed this country. And you are correct. If these requirements are relaxed due to the faux outrage being spewed, the media would be the first to point the finger at this Administration.

No mention of Chertoff, who started this ball rolling in 2005, and is most certainly benefiting from the use of these scanners. With 90+% of the radio stations, and FOX News toting water for the Republicans, it is hard to get the truth out there.

[Catherina]

19. Chertoff and Obama seem to have a bond .

Secret Service Guards Obama
Chertoff assigns detail to protect candidate at request of campaign By M. Morris, Newser Staff

Posted May 3, 2007 3:58 PM CDT


The move—the earliest assignment since the Secret Service started guarding major candidates in 1968—makes Obama the first 2008 hopeful who is not a former First Lady to have a Secret Service detail.

http://www.newser.com/story/1916/secret-service-guards-obama.html

Secret Service Guards Obama, Taking Unusually Early Step

The secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, authorized the protection for Mr. Obama after consulting with a Congressional advisory committee that reviews security for presidential hopefuls. The decision to assign agents to Mr. Obama, nearly nine months before voting begins in the Democratic primaries for president, is the earliest the Secret Service has ever issued a security detail to a candidate.

...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/us/politics/04obama.html

The additional billion Obama just pumped in this scam artist's pockets must be a nice thank you.