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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:13 PM
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Looking into the crystal ball for 2012, how do you think your state is going to go?
This is assuming Obama against an unknown republican.

I think California is probably a safe state for Obama.
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Laf.La.Dem. Donating Member (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:27 PM
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1. Sad to say - BUT
Louisiana will vote against the Black Guy:cry:
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:29 PM
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2. Obama will smite
Once again.

We have one single lonely Republican Senator in our state lege. He is a huge horse's ass, need I add?
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rasputinkhlyst Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:39 PM
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3. RI will be in OBAMA's camp in an election....
If there is a primary, then it will depend upon who challenges Obama
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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:43 PM
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4. I'm in GA, so sad to say
whatever republican is running against President Obama or any other Democrat if there is a primary.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:46 PM
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5. CT will go BLUE!
:bounce:
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:55 PM
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6. Alaska will go red to the core thanks to the National Spineless Party
Otherwise known as the Democratic Party.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 07:33 PM
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8. Agreed.
Honestly, I think the Dems could make some headway up here if they'd show some guts.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 07:37 PM
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9. We have been telling everyone that will listen that same thing.
Unless we start to stand up for our convictions we may as well not even field candidates up here anymore. Sad but true.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 07:49 PM
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11. The sad thing is that there really are a lot of good progressive
people up here, but it seems like there's a bit of Stockholm Syndrome going on with the general populace. It seems like if people really understood what the Republican Party is all about, they wouldn't want to align themselves with them.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 08:55 PM
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13. I hear ya there
:(
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 07:20 PM
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7. depends on the GOP ticket
if Chris Christie is on it then who knows. If not then we're blue (NJ).
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 07:39 PM
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10. SOLID BLUE!! Lucky to live in Maryland!! n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 07:51 PM
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12. New Hampshire will be voting straight Republican, just like they did this year. (NT)
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:07 PM
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14. Super blue!
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 09:25 PM
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15. I'm in Tn now - so odds are it will go R
Seven out of the last 10 Presidential elections they voted R. Exceptions were for Carter and Clinton's 2 terms.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:05 PM
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16. Missouri is reverting to Missourah...Red and McCaskill will be out on her ass too...
The sad thing is that the cretins here would happily vote for the Thrilla from Wasilla or Jeb or a cardboard cut-out of Nixon (Richard not Jay for you fellow Missourians out there)...

I do not see an achievable path to re-election for Obama. He is going to lose too many of the states that flipped and got him elected in '08. Primary challenge or not, sub-moron opponent or not, Obama cannot win re-election without a massive U-turn in his politics and that is something we will NEVER see. He is what he is....a warmed over Blue-dog with no appetite for the hand-to-hand combat necessary to take down the slime bags on the right who will back down when challenged but will never do it on their own.

They are classic bullies and all that is needed is a leader willing to stand up to them and tell them to shut up and sit down while the grown ups discuss how to fix the current messes (1 - bad banks go under, 2- bad bankers go to jail, 3 - military wars of choice end, 4 - tax rates return to the pre-Bush levels for EVERYONE and then new middle class tax relief, deeper and broader than before, is instituted, 5 - sane fiscal policies for SS and Medicare/Medicaid that include taxes above the existing $106,000 threshold and means-tested benefits beyond $1M in annual NET income).

Five points, five fights that are needed, to save this country's most vulnerable citizens from the worst of the austerity measures the conservative bastards have planned for all but the most wealthy among the people. Tea partiers do not even recognize the irony in their harping on about "We, the people..." It all makes me sad in a way that crushes the spirit and saps the soul of the willingness to fight on.

This is Obama's legacy....unless he reverses course starting with these damnable Bush tax policies. Grow pair Mr. President....hit back and we will rally to you in numbers that will boggle the mind and sweep the electorate. Stay in the marsh that you have created and prepare to be beaten into a submissive one-term punching bag and eternal punchline for worst electoral stomping since Mondale in '84.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 04:19 AM
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20. A little trivia
Only two presidents have been reelected by winning fewer states the second time than the first. If Obama wins reelection, he will probably be the third since it's hard to see him winning more states than he did the first time.

The two -- Wilson and Clinton.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:29 AM
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26. 2-years is a life time in politics and if the economy is looking stronger in '12
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 09:30 AM by WI_DEM
and one of the mediocres who are running on the GOP side is nominated Obama could clean up again.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:28 AM
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25. A new poll out shows Obama beating all the GOP candidates in Virginia
if he wins Virginia again then he wins a lot of states he won in 2008. He will win most if not all the blue states and so he only needs a couple of the red or purple states he won in 2008. It's really not hard to see how Obama could win re-election and he's actually in a better position than many other presidents after only two years in office including Clinton and Reagan.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:08 PM
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17. NJ - very very likely Obama
especially if they pick either a Huckabee/Palin/DeMint etc. Palin greatly helped Obama in 2008 - she made it a landslide as many on the fence immediately went to Obama.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 12:53 AM
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18. Republican, probably by a larger margin than in '08.
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 02:16 AM
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19. Definitely blue in CT
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 07:23 PM
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34. Yup, stuck on blue, happy to say.
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downeyr Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 06:36 AM
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21. Washington State is a lock for Democrats.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 07:12 AM
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22. I'm concerned about NH.
We were red, then we were purple, then we were blue, now were reddish purple. The Republicans won the Senate seat that was open, the 2 House seats and the State legislature this election. We still have a Democratic governor and half a Democrat Shaheen in the Senate. I can see this state voting for a Republican presidential candidate. (Seriously considering a move over the border to Vermont.)
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 07:58 AM
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23. Well we can only do our best and keep the sales pitch going of our achievements.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:23 AM
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24. Wisconsin will be a toss-up, but it really depends on who the GOP nominates
WI voted overwhelmingly GOP this year, so maybe they will get it out of their system. On the otherhand if the economy is looking a lot better then Obama should be able to win it easily.
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:21 AM
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27. of course
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 10:22 AM by sweetapogee
2012 is off a ways and the main factor next cycle will be the economy, plain and simple. I'm in PA, a battle ground state and being a realist the momentum as I see it right now is with the pukes. I worked as a poll watcher this time and my very dependable blue voting district I estimate had about 50% registered dems vote puke with a good turnout. My state house representative is Keith McCall (D) who is the outgoing house speaker (he is retiring) and McCall is not happy with some of the item Gov Rendell is pushing for the lame duck session in Harrisburg. Keith is a good guy and his unhappiness is for a reason I suspect as I expect McCall to re-emerge in the near future with new political ambitions.

US Sen. Bob Casey Jr. also will have to craft some explanations because he ran as a moderate last time and will not win 2012 as a liberal, sorry to say. Some of his votes are going to haunt him with the PA electorate, not saying it's right, just gazing into my crystal ball as asked by the OP. I have said it before and will repeat, I expect Casey to be moderate this session to the consternation of many of us here on DU. I'm of the opinion that Casey is in real trouble going into 2012 but again, it depends on the economy and who the repugs run for the seat.

We need to put together a workable plan for the economy in PA. Running based of real or perceived puke mistakes will be an actual mistake for us. If the local economy improves under the pukes next year we are going to have a long hard time of it I'm afraid to say. Needless to say, now is the time to act, not wait a year and then react.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:33 PM
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28. Anyone from Iowa, Ohio, or Michigan?
:shrug:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:43 PM
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29. Faint blue here in Oregon. Enough to pull down a victory for POTUS,
but I see heavy resistance from the Republican influences here, just like we saw in the midterms of '10 and '06. I guess it's worth noting that Republican resistance didn't secure them any real victories in those elections.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:49 PM
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30. Shit. That is all.... from Oklahoma. n/t
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:51 PM
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31. I hope blue again but NC tilts red
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:52 PM
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32. Michigan and Wisconsin could go either way
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:58 PM
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33. That's what I feared
:(
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