No offense to woman on DU but whats up with these white republican woman challenging Obama's manhood

[bigdarryl]

Like Palin, Bachmann and now McCain's daughter Meghan http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/22/meghan-mccain-kick-obamas-ass_n_787087.html

[eShirl]

1. deep down (or perhaps not so deep down in some cases) they feel females are inferior to males

[Proud Liberal Dem]

2. Penis envy?

:hide:

[DrDan]

3. can you imaging mitch, boner, limbaugh, and the rest challenging ANYONE's manhood?

has to come from the women

[pkz]

23. Limbaugh called dem men....

"chicken girlie men" during the startup of Gulf War II

[DrDan]

24. well - considering Hillary and Barbara, not sure "girlie men" is much of an insult

[HughBeaumont]

4. Riiiiiiiiiight, Meg . . . and your "ace in the hole" would be???

[justiceischeap]

5. Gonna go out on a limb here...

Maybe they feel they must act this way to be "powerful" women. They see men talk and act this way, so why shouldn't they? I mean really, the question should be, "why would any adult challenge Obama's manhood?" because men do it all the time and we don't see that as a question here. BTW, I'm not offended, just pointing out the obvious.

[katandmoon]

6. His what?

[JTFrog]

8. I'd like to help you out.

Which way did you come in?

:hide:

[stray cat]

7. It has also been said by progressives on DU

And he was told to take off his tutu or something like it by Michael Moore and he was cheered

So whatever it is it applies to progressives and men as well

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

9. they want him in the carnal sense

[whistler162]

10. Okay Carville is two of those but I don't believe he is a

woman!

[burning rain]

11. I daresay he's invited it by the wimpish way he's dealt with Republicans...

giving away major concessions in return for nothing, etc. Rather like Harry Reid with the odious Sharron Angle (although Reid ran a good, tough reelection campaign: would that he led Senate Democrats the same way).

[karynnj]

16. "In return for nothing" - No, it was to get the votes needed to pass legislation

The concessions were only to the people whose votes were needed and obtained. The stimulus would not have passed without Collins, Snowe, and Specter. They were the ones who cut it back and mae part of it tax cuts - that work less well. They did make the bill worse, but otherwise it pure and simple would not have passed.

On HCR, Baucus worked with Snowe, Hatch and other Republicans for four months, but the reason that the public option, Medicare buyin for those 55 - 65 and other things were eliminated were that Nelson, Liebermen, Landrieu etc said they absolutely wouldn't vote for it. Reid needed 60 votes - the entire plan could not be done under reconciliation.

It doesn't help when frustrated people on the left - and we all are frustrated by the complete partisanship of the Republicans - argue that the problem was not Republican intransigence, but our leaders weakness.

[treestar]

26. +1 million

Such a tired talking point that one is.

[burning rain]

31. The need for 60 votes is a sham.

That rule can be abrogated at any time via the nuclear/constitutional option.

[Fruittree]

41. Thank you for saying that but...

It's almost like there's a contingent here on DU who live in an alternate reality where if only __________(fill in the blank) were president then we'd get everything we want because it's only because Pres. Obama was weak that we didn't get __________(fill in the blank). As for these women, it's purely because they're stupid, have nothing real to attack him on, there's a bit of racism involved, they don't appreciate intellect in a man and they get publicity every time they open their mouths. They are all adult versions of the girls we avoided in high school.

[Creative]

33. As well as the wimpish way he has handled foreign affairs.

[burning rain]

35. I don't see any wimpishness there.

If anything, the president's been a real hardass, ramping up drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, notably. But if by "wimpish" you mean adopting Republican hardassery, then OK.

[burning rain]

34. Bungled my syntax there.

The sentence "Rather like Harry Reid with the odious Sharron Angle (although Reid ran a good, tough reelection campaign: would that he led Senate Democrats the same way)."

should read:

Rather like Harry Reid (although Reid ran a good, tough reelection campaign against the odious Sharron Angle; would that he led Senate Democrats the same way).

[karynnj]

12. They have challenged every male Democrat they are up against in tht way

In fact, this what Republicans have done for years - and it doesn't matter what the Democrat's background is like.

Remember there were attacks on our candidate's masculinity, even when they had a candidate who was a cheerleader in high school, lost flying privileges in the national guard, and seemed to appear with scrapes and bruises whenever he road his mountain bike - and our candidate played 4 sports in high school and college, was an excellent pilot, was a highly decorated war hero, who risked his life to save others, and who hunts. (they had a problem with the other sides - the eloquence, statesmanship, impressive breath of knowledge, manners, etc )

There is no Democratic candidate they won't go after this way - one difference is that they have shifted from whisper campaigns to the message coming from their most right wing women. (It still stuns me that O'Donnell, a 40 something virgin*, who apparently has never had a serious relationship would dare go there against Castle. If we were them - imagine what could have been said.)

[treestar]

28. Yep and the M$M goes right along

They were just disgusting going after Kerry like that. I still can't believe Commander AWOL didn't lose the election over it.

They do it regarding their crappy wars, too, if you're against them, they start on the "coward" theme.

[karynnj]

29. What surprised me is that I never would have thought it would work

in Kerry's case. He may be the most alpha male either party ever put up - an athlete/war hero/pilot - which were NONE of the reasons I wanted him to be President, but are all the things the Republicans usually like - but I guess only in Republicans.

I remember though that in 2004, Sports Illustrated polled who was the more athletic and I think who was the bigger sports fan. It is highly likely Bush deserves the later, but as the magazine's editor wrote when the results were out, there was no contest on the former. Bush won both.

"Sports Illustrated readers overwhelmingly voted Mr. Bush the better athlete and sports fan, a conclusion the magazine's managing editor, Terry McDonell, finds baffling.

"Clearly Kerry is a much, much, much, much better athlete," he said, noting that Mr. Kerry has long played competitive hockey and also regularly snowboards, Rollerblades, windsurfs and kite-surfs.

"Kite-surfing," Mr. McDonell said, "is the hardest, most radical thing to do. It's what the most extreme surfers are doing."

Mr. Bush, in contrast, was a cheerleader, and not, Mr. McDonell notes, the kind that did flips. "It's like spirit club."
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/betweenthelines/archives/2004_09.html

What the poll results show, is that faced with an obvious fact - Republicans absolutely refused to believe what their eyes should have told them. Believing it would make their heads explode.

The same was true of the Vietnam histories. Kerry had the type of experiences that could easily seem like a 1940s movie - he risked his life to save a peer and he worked out an alternative manoever for ambushes, sold it to his peers, and executed it without losing anyone on the three boats when they went into an ambush. Bush on the other hand, pulled strings to air nationsl guard where he proceeded to lose flying privileges. Even without any of the likely but contested aspects of not being where he was suppose to be, there is absolutely no comparison. Yet the SBVT liars made some believe Kerry was a coward of worse.

[ProSense]

13. Palin obviously, but that McCain comment has nothing to to do with "manhood"

It's simply a political statement about defeating Obama.

Meghan McCain, daughter of Arizona Sen. John McCain, might be seeking to avenge her father's 2008 presidential loss by becoming a GOP strategist next election season in order to "kick Obama's ass" in 2012.

I hope Democrats kick the Republicans ass in 2012.

[Ozymanithrax]

14. It is because he is a Democrat...If he were Republican Barbra Bush would ask...

Barbara Bush: Tell me, schatze, is it twue what they say about the way you people are... gifted?

Barbara Bush: Oh, it's twue. It's twue. It's twue, it's twue!

[GoCubsGo]

15. Why would I be offended?

This is nothing but an extension of the macho, tough-guy, cowboy shit we've been seeing from the repugs at least since the days of Reagan. There was a thread here yesterday about reaction by the freepers over Mooselini's gutting of a halibut on her bullshit TV show. They claimed liberals would "get the vapors" at the sight of it. Image is everything to these assholes. They're tough. Democrats are wimps because they don't gut halibuts and trim brush with a chainsaw. They did it to John Kerry, Al Gore, and countless others. Same shit, different assholes.

[shraby]

17. Those are called talking points..somone told them to say it.

That's really being independent and speaking for themselves. :sarcasm:

[Colobo]

18. They can't have him. There is a chance they fantasize about being with a black man

but their prejudices get in the middle of that.

[lunatica]

19. What is it with men challenging Obama's manhood?

And those women you use as examples? Since when are they representative of all women?

[madmom]

20. Because he's not out there talking about..

a "blood bath", "putting a boot in someone's ass" "second amendment rights" anything that sounds tough and macho, so he's not "a man"!! But they don't seem to realize talk is cheap!

[Bluenorthwest]

21. How would you characterize the President's words against

gay couples? We are not 'sanctified by God' like his own straight kind, he says. Talk about impuning one's automony, under the color of divine authority which is not his to claim.

[vaberella]

39. What does that have to do wih gender issues?

Additionally...he's quoting religious nonsense that he needs to throughout. But uh...yeah----religion says that gay marriage is not sanctified by God. That's hardly respective to gender---since this goes back----hmmmmm centuries.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

22. creatures

I'm not sure if they are women, are they human?

[niceypoo]

25. Rove

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

27. Don't get me started. It's not just white Republican women, it's white Republican men...

...with some white Democrats--both women and men--too!!

Recall James Carville's remark, for an example of Democrats. I see posts from Democrats on this very forum alluding to Obama's "balls" and whatnot.

And of course, the Republicans take great delight in emasculating Obama. Limbaugh has called him "boy" on several occasions. The blatant disrespect to this man--whether it be yelling "You Lie!" in a joint session of Congress; calls to "break him" (DeMint); the mouthing off from a supreme court justice; interrupting the president while he's speaking or answering questions; and/or, failing to receive an invitation to attend a meeting at the president's request.

The lack of respect for this president is as baffling as it is appallingly racist!

[rury]

37. +1,000,000,000

[11 Bravo]

30. Limbaugh would need an extra hand and at least two mirrors to see if he even HAS a dick!

[Kennah]

32. Truth In Politics

When you don't have facts to argue, you trash your opponent.

[zulchzulu]

36. File under: Who Fucking Cares n/t

[vaberella]

38. My teacher for ethnic studies talked about this. He said this goes back to the fight for voting.

He said that this is a historical thing and that many White women are responding on a historical context---some unwittingly some knowingly. When Black men were given the vote before White Women many White Women felt affronted and were disgusted that they were seen lesser than Black men. So this reaction is almost a transference of the same issue in American history. Once again a man, and a Black man is seen above a woman, and most of all a White woman.

[Skittles]

40. it's something rightwing whores do

[BlueMTexpat]

42. Perhaps it's because white Republican women, like white

Republican men, are fixated on genitalia.

:shrug:

[PVnRT]

43. Latent racism

[Empowerer]

44. They do it for the same reason they think they have a right to attack Michelle Obama for supposedly

not loving America the way they claim to: ignorance, arrogance, hatefulness, and a completely internalized and unselfconscious sense of white entitlement.