What do you think a Huckabee presidency would be like?

[grasswire]

Predictions?

[DJ13]

1. The Beverly Hillbillies

[awoke_in_2003]

41. please do not insult hillbillies...

:)

[SteppingRazor]

2. You mean what would it be like if the president were a congenial, far-right Jesus freak?

I'd imagine it would look a lot like the 1980s, no? Or the 2000s for that matter.

[grasswire]

5. he really reminds me of Nixon

I suppose the direction of his presidency would depend on who owned him at that point. Neo-cons? Paleo-cons?

Is he one of the crazies?

[lunasun]

8. i think he has a tv show on Fox ,,,so crazy like a fox(show host)!

[emilyg]

13. I like his show - past

Sunday he had Whoopee (?) on.

[Clio the Leo]

3. He's the least evil Republican IMO, so if I HAD to choose. nt

[DesertFlower]

9. really? remember during the primary he

was asked if mormons were xtians? he said "he didn't know". when he was told they were xtians he said "don't they believe jesus and the devil were cousins"?

those statements IMO are not very xtian.

now he talks about HCR. doesn't think the insurance companies should cover people with pre-existing conditions. he said "it's like if your house burns down, you want to buy insurance the next day".

he's a phony and i don't like him. not that i like any one of the repubs.

[muffin1]

20. To me, he's one of the MOST evil...

Because of his 'folksy' demeanor. He says the nastiest things (gay people are icky, etc), but because he says them with an 'aw, shucks' smile, people think he's 'nicer' somehow.

And then there's the whole Jesus angle. Jesus would NEVER have been on the side of the rich. Jesus would have NEVER let poor people go without health care. Jesus would have NEVER called other people 'icky'.

Huckabee pretends to be this 'man of God', but he is pretty much the opposite of that. Creeps me out.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

47. Yep. Just like Dumbya. He's a fraud. A gun freak, and the joke he made about

Obama referencing getting shot. He is a phony and I could see white Americans especially falling for that "folksy" bullshit just like they did with Dumbya Bush.

Question is: how is he going to get through the primaries? He's to the left of most of the wingnuts on immigration, and he has *some* compassion for the poor, which doesn't bode well for the rest of the wingnuts. Unless he flip flops on immigration like McCain did, I just don't see it.

I think Mittens is the worst threat.

I tell you: Obama had better get his act together and FAST! He better start fighting these Republicans or he is finished. I believe that!

[krabigirl]

56. He's one of the worst. He thinks we should rewrite the Constitution so it conforms to Biblical law.

just sayin'.

[bluestateguy]

4. Liberal Soft on Crime policies where murderers are set free from prison

Like Wayne DuMond and Maurice Clemmons.

We can't afford Mike Huckabee because he's too liberal on crime.

(Just pound that point home with your Red State friends; you don't have to believe it yourself ;))

[grasswire]

11. I just realized I don't have any red state friends

That's weird.

[ShadowLiberal]

38. More like pardons of hundreds of violent criminals who kill/rape again

Huckabee has already pardoned at least 2 people who went on to kill again.

Huckabee will pardon any rapist or murder who conservatives side with simply because their victim was related to a 'liberal' politician like President Bill Clinton.

And Huckabee pardoned that guy who later killed murdered 4 cops.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

48. Oh yeah! I had forgotten about that. He set free a lot of "criminals."

[Turbineguy]

6. Great for criminals

who, tired of jail, accept Jesus as their savior. Not so good for the rest of us.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

7. Dead

[AspenRose]

10. Did you read The Handmaid's Tale?

Like that.

[mikekohr]

12. Mike Huckabee's Willie Horton

Huckster Mike Huckabee is hoping you never look in his closet because there's a Willie Horton hiding in there. Huckabee's Horton is a monster named Wayne Dumond, a criminal with a long rap sheet of sexual assaults and molestations. Dumond was an admitted participant in the massacre of a Cambodian village when he was stationed in Vietnam; after returning to the U.S., he admitted to participating in a claw hammer murder of a fellow soldier.

Huckabee bought into the Clinton-hating, lunatic, right-wing, conspiracy buffs that attempted to implicate Bill Clinton in seeking revenge for the rape of a 16-year-old girl related to Clinton that Dumond kidnapped, raped, and terrorized for two days. The victim, upon learning of Huckabee's efforts to free Dumond, met with Governor Huckabee and, putting her face inches from his, said, "He (Dumond) was this close to me for two days. I'll never forget his face and I don't want you to forget mine."

Undaunted, Huckabee worked relentlessly on, against the advice of the parole board and law enforcement officials, to secure Dumond's release from prison. The good governor finally prevailed and Dumond was released under the condition that he leave the state of Arkansas. Dumond complied, moved to Missouri and promptly raped and murdered a woman and is suspected in the rape and murder of a second victim.

Huckabee has responded to criticism of his inexcusable actions by flat out denying he had anything to do with turning Dumond loose on the American public, in spite of voluminous testimony to the contrary.

Blind adherence to rigid political ideology, an absolute refusal to accept advice from others, and stubborn refusal to accept responsibility for his own actions, has not served George W. Bush well as a President. These shared character defects will not wear well on Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee either.

Ironically, perhaps predictably, Huckabee is emerging as the consensus choice for the Republican nomination for president among so-called Christian Conservatives. Go figure.

http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx ?
ArticleID=154e1aad-fd18-4efd-8d80-b5dab8559419

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/sexual_assaul...

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/rash-devious-inc...



A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION

Mike Kohr
Princeton, IL
2007

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

49. Exactly! He's the most dangerous because he reminds me of Bush!

[PBS Poll-435]

14. Instead of the Saturday Presidential Radio Address, BBQ Cookoffs!

:shrug:

[kysrsoze]

15. Hee Haw - with a big Jesus slant.

[burning rain]

16. Like something impossible.

The Republican presidential candidate in 2012 will be either Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney. Palin needs the support of Christian conservatives and tea partiers/populists, while Romney will be the candidate of business Republicans. Huckabee's only role in the end will be that of a spoiler: whether or not he takes away enough of Palin's Christian votes to assure Romney's nomination.

[JoePhilly]

18. The mormon thing should hurt Romney with the Fundie base ... but ...

That's what Glen Beck is for. Part of Glenn Beck's job is to be Fox's Mormon. The fundies love Beck.

So, when Romney runs, expect Beck to have his back, and use his show to mitigate fundie fears about Mormons. Count on it.

The corporate GOP runs the show. They invented the Tea Party and they pull its strings. They will keep Palin around to stir up the base. She might even run during the first set of primaries. But she won't debate. She'd get crushed.

She'll drop out quick and endorse Romney because the GOP backers will PAY HER to do so. Maybe a few more book deals, with the books being written by some one else ... maybe a spot at the Heritage Foundation, doing nothing. And of course, a Fox News gig.

Huck will be the odd man out.

It is possible for some one else to emerge, but the corporate GOP would have to like that candidate more then they like Mittens.

[burning rain]

23. Has Beck ever defended Mormonism explicitly, though?

I'm not aware of him having done so. I doubt he'd put it front and center: he customarily speaks not as a Mormon, but like a Protestant fundamentalist. The corporate GOP used to run the show, as you say, but this year tea party anger brought the defeats of such corporate Republican powerhouses as Robert Bennett and Mike Castle. We may be in a new phase if tea partiers and the go-for-broke faction of the corporate world remain hyped up. In the past I'd have rated Romney the clear favorite, but in this season maybe not: in addition to his flip-flops on abortion, gay rights, and guns, there's his Massachusetts health plan, which tea partiers hate as the precursor of "Obamacare." So I wouldn't count Palin out for the GOP nomination, though she's a sure loser in the general election, despite the fretting of the lily-livered, pants-shitting faction of liberals.

[JoePhilly]

34. I think Beck will work the Mormon line in slowly.

He will start to mention his own Mormon faith and how he, like so many other Christians, think blah, blah, blah ...

The Christian right leaders have always tried to minimize the distance between fundies and Mormons, and Catholics ... take McCain, he chased Rev Haggee for his endorsement ... but then walked away from it (once he had it) because Haggee's anti Catholic ranting threatened to get more national exposure.

The corporate leadership will work to close the "Mormon gap" ... and after all, would a fundie prefer a Mormon, or a Muslim President.

As for the social issues, those were downplayed in the mid-terms ... did you notice ... very few of the Tea Party / GOP candidates wanted to discuss those. The "center" is more socially liberal than the right wing ... so they will down-play that aspect.

And I don't think Palin can win the GOP primary ... the Tea Party is not that strong ... they could not even deliver a Dancing with the Stars trophy to Bristol.

A new player is what I am watching for ... I could see Rubio running ... we already know that the GOP does not care if you serve even one full term. He's in Florida, Hispanic ... why not run him next.

[flamingdem]

53. I think it will be Romney, economy and all that, plus Bush Sr. pumped him last week nt

[BlueIris]

17. Falwell reborn.

With pie.

[slackmaster]

19. Kind of like Mister Rogers but with bibles

:nuke:

[Blue_In_AK]

26. Yep, that's kind of what I was thinking.

Huckabee seems relatively benign, but he really is stuck back in the 19th Century with all the Biblical stuff.

[Phx_Dem]

21. Non existent. n/t

[Yavin4]

22. As Crazy As This Will Sound

He's the only Republican that I think we would actually get some decent progressive legislation from. Sure, we'll have tax cuts and another war in Iran. However, I think that we would probably see some good things from him as well.

For instance, I can see him expanding Medicare coverage to folks 55 and over. I really do.

[grasswire]

24. a Republican centrist might get some traction

An Eisenhower type Republican, or Nixon without the paranoia.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

59. That's how we got Dumbya. His claim to be a "compassionate conservative."

I just hope this country doesn't fall for this okey-doke AGAIN!!!

[truebrit71]

30. Progressive unless you suffer from 'teh gay' of course...then you're just screwed...

...I see him hanging them up from lampposts.. I really do...

[Yavin4]

32. Yeah, I Can See Him Doing That

But he probably would expand Medicare.

[truebrit71]

33. ..oh well that's alright then...

...:shrug:

[olegramps]

43. Nothing very serious, like a war with Iran?

[TwilightGardener]

25. Nonexistent. Released too many criminals from jail ( because he'd thought

they'd "gotten Jesus") who went on to rape and kill again.

[polichick]

27. U.S., laughing stock of the world. nt

[backscatter712]

28. Very dangerous - Huckabee's the one most able to pull a Reagan.

Reagan transformed the country and shifted it way to the right, all the while going on TV with his Bedtime for Bonzo persona to shrug off the attacks from the left over the batshit things he was doing - he truly was the Teflon President. He was able to get away with running the national debt into the stratosphere, needless saber-rattling with the Soviet Union with "evil empire" rhetoric, Iran-Contra, etc. etc. etc.

Huckabee could do the same thing - make our country get much closer to a full fascist theocracy, all with that aw-shucks, Mr. Rogers persona of his that'll give him Teflon.

Democrats need to work very hard on derailing his Presidential ambitions now.

[Raine1967]

29. A Fried Squirrel in every Popcorn popper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj3QAzSWVA4

Ain't he Folksy???

[hatrack]

31. Kind of like Hee-Haw, but with pay-per-view executions

nt

[Zoeisright]

35. Back to the 1400s.

A theocracy. You think you're losing freedom now? Bah. Just wait.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

36. "Hee Haw" on meth.

[Generic Brad]

37. I think it would be very likely

He is strictly partisan but pulls it off in an affable good old boy way. He is the one Republican opponent I fear could beat President Obama.

[DimplesinMI]

39. Bookmark this Thread...Because I will be the first to say, OUT LOUD

That if President Obama does not get his act together, the fight for this second term is NOT going to come from Caribou Barbie from Alaska, it will be from Mike Huckabee.

Seriously.... Mike Huckabee has a Bill Clinton charm, dressed up in a Bible "so to speak". People want someone who seems honest (at least on the outside) and Huckabee does at least, appear to have that.

In the same aspect, he is likable, knows policy and can at least relate with those he might disagree with. He is from the South and Huckabee will carry huge support down in the red states, if it appears that he can gain an edge in the General election. Yeah, he released some dangerous prisoners but, if Sarah Palin can leave her Governorship in Alaska and SOMEHOW still be in the political arena....so can Huckabee.

The "Willie Horton" type of incident will be dismissed, just like Bush being to drunk to serve in Vietnam.

In my strong opinion, this is the guy to watch and personally, maybe even a scary prediction of the future....he has the best chance at beating President Obama.

[olegramps]

44. Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.

He has that down home ah shucks persona coupled with solid Christian Fundamentalism. He would be a landslide in the South along with the entirety of the Bible Belt and could carry much of the midwest. I don't believe that Obama can attract the youth vote as he did for the 2000 election to counter the senior voters who agree with Huckabee's traditional conservatism. It could result in the fatal erosion of the Constitution and the secular Republic.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

50. My only caveat to that is that the Corporate run and owned media doesn't seem

to care much for Huckabee. They want Romney because he'll do the corporate bidding.

[Still Sensible]

40. It would be a lot like Reagan's... or try to be. n/t

[hayu_lol]

42. The magic team...

Huckleberry and Alan Keyes...they both carry those magical mythological books don't ya know.

[rasputin1952]

45. Ain't gonna happen...n/t

[Jennicut]

46. Worse then W. for sure. W. paid lip service to the fundies to get votes.

I doubt his conversion was ever real. Huckabee really is one of them.

[Paladin]

51. Overweight and Insane. (n/t)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

52. a christian based reality show.

And now, a word from our sponsor, Gospels 3:14.

[Bette Noir]

54. Remember "The Handmaid's Tale," by Margaret Atwood?

[baldguy]

64. +1000

[krabigirl]

55. Utter hell, imo.

[Whisp]

57. better than an Obama one! youbetcha!!!

:rofl:

you do know there Are people here that truly believe the Huckster is a better man than Obama is. so many of them here.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

58. Matchy.

[craigmatic]

60. Right wing on culture issues but probably moderate on economics.

Or not.

[golfguru]

61. I do not like fundies...so I will not like Huckabee

in the WH. I don't like extremely religious people of any religion.
And that is why I am so proud of my parent's religion, because they never
try to convert any one, never send out missionaries to find converts,
and are tolerant of other religions. Yes, I am talking of Hindu's.
When Swami Vivekanand was giving a speech at a religious conference in Chicago
in the 1920's, he famously said "Like all rivers reach the oceans, all prayers
reach the Gods regardless of religion".

Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, all originated in Hindu India. And the country
has millions of Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Zoroastrians. And no one is
treated as subservient to the majority Hindu religion. Elected leaders of
India come from all religions. A real secular democracy, largest in the world
by population.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

63. Cool.

I think the Abrahamic religions are stupid and irrational (I do have respect for the Jews because of their emphasis on education and achievement) and I have had a stomachful of well meaning people who just think if I pray harder to Jesus then everything will be wonderful.

Where I live, they don't think, they don't read, they don't follow the news. They are mentally lazy and all they know is what some stupid preacher tells them. My next door neighbor was in my house. I have an altar where I have statues and pics of my ancestors. I have a four armed Kwan Yin, a Medicine Buddha and a dancing Shiva.

I asked her what she thought of my statues and she raised her forearms, crossed them in front of her like she was protecting her self and said, "BUDDHISM IS VOODOO!".

I immediately said, "No, it is not. Buddha was a man who worked hard and became enlightened but he is not a god. Buddhism is an ancient and dignified religion."

I was wasting my breath. That is life here in East Texas. Actually voodoo is more like native animism plus animal sacrifice in Christianity. She didn't want to know the truth.

Talk about Shiva stomping on the demon of ignorance!!! :crazy:

In the meantime, since I am sick of all-Jeebus-all-the-time, I read the Buddhist Sutras and some Hindu scriptures as well. When I lived in Houston I went to a Mahayana Temple that was Chinese and had an English speaking group.

China and India had far advanced civilizations compared to the Hebrews who were superstitious and primitive. Why anyone thinks the bible is a good guide for conduct is beyond me. They thought that demons caused physical and mental illness. They knew nothing of investigation and science.

[cliffordu]

62. I love the fact that we are discussing what a nice man the Huckster is

Kum-bye-ya, m'lord, kum-bye-ya......

:hurts:

[old mark]

65. If it were not a total tragedy, it would be fucking hilarious...nt