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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:17 PM
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WikiLeaks Founder: Hillary Clinton 'Should Resign'
I have some mixed feel about Assange. is he Hero or He is not our Hero? because he plot to destroy Obama"s Presidency? because He is a anti-war, but he might rooting for terrorist..
honestly, with you, I have mix feel about him for leak secret right now.. Leaker Manning seems upset with America because of DADT...


Hillary Clinton, Julian Assange said, "should resign." Speaking over Skype from an undisclosed location on Tuesday, the WikiLeaks founder was replying to a question by TIME managing editor Richard Stengel over the diplomatic-cable dump that Assange's organization loosed on the world this past weekend. Stengel had said the U.S. Secretary of State was looking like "the fall guy" in the ensuing controversy, and had asked whether her firing or resignation was an outcome that Assange wanted. "I don't think it would make much of a difference either way," Assange said. "But she should resign if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up. Yes, she should resign over that."
Assange spoke about the latest tranche of documents from WikiLeaks in a 36-minute interview with TIME (the full audio will be available soon on TIME.com). He said there would be more: "We're doing about 80 a day, presently, and that will gradually step up as the other media partners step in." Indeed, every region of the world appears to be bracing for its turn in the WikiLeaks mill. Pakistani officials are almost certain that more revealing documents focusing on their country will come out soon. And the Russian media are anxious to see if future leaks will detail any behind-the-scenes dealings over the August 2008 Russia-Georgia war.

Asked what his "moral calculus" was to justify publishing the leaks and whether he considered what he was doing to be "civil disobedience," Assange said, "Not at all. This organization practices civil obedience, that is, we are an organization that tries to make the world more civil and act against abusive organizations that are pushing it in the opposite direction." As for whether WikiLeaks was breaking the law, he said, "We have now in our four-year history, and over 100 legal attacks of various kinds, been victorious in all of those matters." He added, "It's very important to remember the law is not what, not simply what, powerful people would want others to believe it is. The law is not what a general says it is. The law is not what Hillary Clinton says it is.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2033771,00.html#ixzz16oJ6QfYn
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:21 PM
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1. I'm leaning towards Huckabee as SOS.
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:18 PM
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9. You can't be serious..
I really hope there is a :sarcasm: that's meant to be there.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:23 PM
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2. There are some that love to point out that she now does what her boss tells here.
:shrug:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:24 PM
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3. I'd start holding my breath on that one. I wonder what kind of odd Vegas would give on that? n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:25 PM
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4. I don't have to agree with assange about everything.
Wikileaks has still done a wonderful for democratic societies.

The people need to know this stuff -- and some people do
Need to go.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:26 PM
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5. Oh, that one's gonna produce some cognitive dissonance
:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :spray:
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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:31 PM
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6. Yeah..That's your option..
I wonder why Assange should says, "Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy must go to Criminal Court"... I guess He upset with Sec. Clinton for some reason.. Well...
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:58 PM
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7. Unrecced for nonsense and idiocy by Assange.
It's easy to talk about right and wrong when you have no responsibility for anything, as he does. But if ANYONE thinks that Clinton has done anything besides standard procedure for all diplomats going back as far as diplomacy has existed, then they are being extremely naive.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:13 PM
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8. She's just following orders after all, right?
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 07:14 PM by sudopod
Why does the UN think their crypto keys are special, anyway?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:09 PM
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10. Does Assange even have a clue how diplomacy works?
The traditional sign off line on thousands of daily cables from State Department headquarters is always the Secretary of State (when he/she is in DC) and the Ambassador for cables from overseas. It is the equivalent of a letterhead. The Secretary only sees a tiny fraction of cables that go out over his/her signature and personally signs off on even fewer.

If Assange wants to really help the world, how about finding out what Iran and North Korea are up to for starters?

What's the big discovery here? That we spy on other nations and their diplomats? Please, what do people think that the rest of the world is doing? Yep, spying on us at every opportunity they get.

My father, a diplomat of decades, would have shaken his head and then laughed at the whole thing (after first being furious that someone leaked confidential information).

:eyes:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:06 AM
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11. Hillary hasn't ordered anything new here
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 01:09 AM by fujiyama
Espionage at the UN is as old as the organization itself. The UN is a massive corrupt joke. And if you think the US is the only country to have done it or attempted to do it, you're fucking naive or just believe different countries should be held to different standards. Assange doesn't understand that this is standard operating procedure at the useless organization.

But I am pleased to hear we're getting leaks from everywhere. It was beginning to look like a petty vendetta against the US and the West. My respect for Assange will increase if we start hearing the same shit about more repressive and corrupt governments worldwide like Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, etc. Granted, access to those countries will be harder when you don't have a leak like Manning.
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