Check in here if you think all DLCers, present and former, should be kicked from the party!

[Clintonista2]

... starting with Al Gore (first name alphabetical of course!)

[xultar]

1. I'm thinking that you are on to something here.

[Ken Burch]

2. Not the ones who admitted they were wrong.

And nobody's calling for anyone to be persecuted, for God's sake.

[Capn Sunshine]

26. Oh Good

as a card carrying ex DLCer , I'm heartened.

I didn't leave the DLC; the DLC left me.

[Dennis Donovan]

3. No, I don't...

You do realize that the Clintons would be near the top of the list you propose, don't you?;)

[DJ13]

8. Thats fine with me

A corporatist is a corporatist.

[grantcart]

9. I believe that the OP was being sarcastic, ironic or sardonic

I am never sure which applies!

[Clintonista2]

10. I'll add you to my list of "DUers who are in severe need of a sarcasm detector "

[Dennis Donovan]

11. Duly noted...

:hi:

[TheBigotBasher]

24. Well

maybe, but probably not.

Those holding the Party to ransom. Yes. Absolutely.

[DrDan]

4. so no room in the party for opposing views? is that what you are suggesting?

ridiculous

[Bobbieo]

5. What Party?Is there a Democratic Party left?

[onehandle]

6. All those years of peace and prosperity under President Clinton were Hell.

:sarcasm:

[bluestateguy]

7. Just the ones who are attention seeking divas who are impossible to work with

Joe Lieberman is like a polite version of Zell Miller.

[branders seine]

12. works for me.

blue dogs first though.

[janx]

13. The DLC as an organization has been irrelevant for years.

They used to have a lot of control, and it was their quest for control that I didn't like--as opposed to their ideology.

This thread is funny though, and you make a good point! A lot of good public servants were members of the organization at some point or another.

[Clintonista2]

15. It's amazing how ignorant many on the left are about the DLC

As I have previously pointed out, I'm probably further to the left than most of DU on an ideological level, and I certainly don't agree with the DLC on most things, but people use it as the boogeyman from hell. I've been called a "DLC-corporatist" by somebody with an Al Gore avatar!

[ima_sinnic]

27. it's just shorthand for corporatist sell-out corrupt money-grubbing fake democrats

whose only allegiance is to those who grease their palms in return for legislation and "deals" favoring capitalist predator pig corporations who have no allegiance to anything at all except the almighty dollar, never mind who they have to stomp over to get it.

[girl gone mad]

36. Only because you take things too literally.

At this point, DLC is simply slang for all of the corporatist obstructionists in the party.

[pnwmom]

14. Starting with Al Gore? This must be a joke. n/t

[stray cat]

16. Bill Clinton I guess

[Perky]

17. That is just stipuid.

As stupid as the GOP tea baggers trying to purify the party of moderates.

[Arkana]

18. OP is sarcastic.

Chill.

[Better Believe It]

19. They can't be kicked out. The Democratic Party doesn't have any members.

Like the Republican Party, it's not a membership organization with membership cards, membership meetings, monthly dues, etc.,

[Capn Sunshine]

29. what!!!

That would be news to we members of the Progressive Caucus of the Democratic Party of California.

My cards specifically state "The California Democratic Party"

[Better Believe It]

32. Like I said, the Democratic Party isn't a membership organization.

You're in a caucus. Anyone can form and "join" a "caucus" or political faction in a political party.

My point is about membership rights, duties, obligations in the national Democratic party and its subordinate affiliates.

So .... how many members does the Democratic Party of California and the national Democratic Party have, how does one become a member of the national Democratic party, does the Democratic Party receive membership dues, does it have membership cards, does it have democratic membership meetings which control the policies and activities of the Democratic Party, does it have a statement of principals and aims people must agree with in order to be eligible for membership and what are the rights and duties of Democratic Party members for starters?

The fundamental question is .... Does the Democratic Party mainly function as an organization set-up to elect individuals to public office, much like the Republican Party, or is it a real mass political organization democratically controlled by members?

The following is the closest thing you will find regarding Democratic Party membership requirement that's included in the Charter and By-laws of the Democratic Party of the United States.

"The Democratic Party of the United States shall be open to all who desire to support the
Party and who wish to be known as Democrats."

You'll notice that no reference is made to party membership applications or requirements .... all you have to do is say "I'm a Democrat" and bingo you're somehow part of the Democratic Party .... without any rights, duties or obligations!

Believe whatever the hell you want and you're welcomed into the big non-membership tent of the Democratic Party!

The idea that Leiberman or any other a-hole can be thrown out of the Democratic Party is nonsense. How can they be thrown out of something they are not a member of? All Leiberman is required to do is proclaim himself a Democrat .... well he doesn't even have to do that> He's an independent and is part of the Democratic Senatorial caucus!

[LastNaturalist]

20. Absolutely! Goodbye Al Gore, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton!

And me.

[Jennicut]

35. Biden was never a member of the DLC.

Officially anyway.
But Al Gore was and I still like Al.

[LastNaturalist]

21. Howard Dean, get your ass out of the party!

Let's be consistent.

[ima_sinnic]

25. Howard Dean was never in the DLC

he's not "their type."

[Capn Sunshine]

28. That's certainly true

but a lot of us in the DLC at the time worked for Howard; myself included.

[SoxFan]

30. Not true

The DLC featured Dean on their web site many times, up until the point when Dean decided to play to the cheap seats in his presidential campaign. As governor, he was a fiscally conservative, pro-business moderate who fought with the left wing of his own party as well as with VT's third party progressives.

[TheBigotBasher]

31. Not only did he have to fight with the left,

he also had to fight a self annointed Presidential wannabe who wanted to change the Primary rules after the race started.

Howard Dean is consistent, if there is one thing I am sad about it is Howard Dean having no role in the Cabinet of the President. His strength under fire was amazing.

[girl gone mad]

37. ahhh, that good old DLC elitism comes shining through.

Yes, all those poor, pathetic riff-raff up in the "cheap seats". Damn that Dean for even acknowledging them. You and Biff in your box seats should so own these pols by now.

:eyes:

[mkultra]

22. yes, them and anyone who is not a democratic

kick them out of the party too.

[NorthCarolina]

23. DLC and Blue Dogs, send them packing to the GOP

where they belong.

[Better Believe It]

33. They can't be thrown out of a party they are not members of.

All they have to do is call themselves Democrats under the Democratic party national charter. And they can continue to call themselves Democrats no matter how reactionary they might be or become!

[Dinger]

34. Rec'd It Back Up To Zero (nt)