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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:31 PM
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This is how you do it.
Simply two bills.

Bill one: does away with pre-existing conditions, lifetime limits, etc etc Effective immediately. No wait. No public option, no exchanges. You vilify anyone who doesn't want to do it as asskissing the insurance companies. Play hardball. You will need 60 votes to pass it. No reconciliation.


Bill two: medicare for all. You can use reconciliation because it is an expansion of the federal budget.


Maybe that is what the WH is thinking.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:33 PM
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1. You'd have to do it in two separate Congresses
There's no way that Lieberman and Nelson, etc., are going to let a regular bill pass if a reconciliation-ready, Medicare-for-all bill is readied up next.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:35 PM
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3. could be because you wouldn't need bill 1 if bill 2 passed
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:34 PM
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2. Maybe that is what the WH is thinking.
If only it was true, but I doubt it.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:35 PM
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4. EXCELLENT! I hope to God that's what they do nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:36 PM
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:38 PM
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8. "sleight of hand", just FYI...
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:40 PM
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9. Exactly!! its OBAMA slight of hand! i agree with you completly
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:27 AM
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10. Dude, I was just letting you know that you were using the wrong word.
So you could fake hysteria without seeming quite so stupid. If you want to stubbornly insist on using the wrong word... knock yourself out.

Moron.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:48 AM
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11. i agree.
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discopants Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:37 PM
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6. ta-da!
This is a brilliant idea!


... now, how does this brilliant idea get shared beyond a thread on DU?


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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:38 PM
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7. Lieberman won't even support a procedural motion on the current bill.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 11:40 PM by tritsofme
Why in the world would he play the role of patsy in your scenario? Not to mention many of other members of the caucus that would not support such legislation.

I doubt it could even pass the House.

You're not being realistic.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:50 AM
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12. I do not believe that will ever happen
Obama will sign the welfare for insurance comapnies bill and that will be that.
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