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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:02 PM
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Reverend Sharpton is going to go after the rethugs for trying to gut health care for minorities
and the poor.About time someone officially challenges them the White House once again is ignoring the rethugs on this
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:06 PM
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1. I love Sharpton's passion
Too bad we don't have a lot more people just like him on our team.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:17 PM
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2. Unfortunately,
Others like him were killed.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:07 AM
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4. Al takes money from Republicans to run against Democrats....he's no martyr.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:06 AM
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3. No--he's a paid shill of the Republicans. He's a useful tool for them.
Just like he got paid by them to run in 2004, he's probably being paid now to go on the talk shows and "support" healthcare...

http://www.villagevoice.com/2004-01-27/news/sleeping-with-the-gop/#

That any Democrat would trust Al Sharpton floors me--he can't get elected dogcatcher in NYC, and there's a reason why.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:29 AM
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6. If he's a paid shill of the Republicans,
then why does he go after Republicans like few other Democrats do?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:44 AM
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8. Which republicans is he 'going after?'
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 11:56 AM by msanthrope
Seriously--name a single Republican Sharpton is 'going after?' Sharpton rants and raves, and is a useful insert when a network wants a pseudo-Democrat with a mouth...which is what makes him a very useful guest for people like Bill O'Reilly, and the rest of Faux.

Al's currently involved in shaking-down Governor Cuomo for crony jobs. He isn't going to do piss against any republican.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:17 PM
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10. Oh c'mon
If you've never heard or seen Sharpton go after Republicans, then you haven't been paying attention.

Seriously--name a single Republican Sharpton is 'going after?


Rush Limbaugh for starters. Sharpton was on the news several times last week for going after Limbaugh with a vengeance. I've seen Sharpton bash Republicans more in a single night than I've seen many other Democrats do in a lifetime.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:45 PM
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11. Great--more infotainment. Two jackasses braying at each other.....and Sharpton wanting new FCC
restrictions. Who would that benefit, I ask you?

Al gets the bread, and we get the circus.

Let me know when Al goes after someone of substance--as in, someone actually voting on the House or Senate floor.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:22 AM
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5. Of course, any mention of Sharpton will bring out critics
Many ardent centrist types despise Al for being vocal about his support for equal rights for all. He's supposed to be like McClurkin or Warren, a minister is supposed to hate teh gay, and Al does not, so of course, the traditionalist moderates have to criticize him. The President is supposed to be the religious voice of America, they insist, and Obama says Christians are anti-equality.
Al's decency is a shaming factor to those who hold a bigoted theology.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:36 AM
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7. +1,000,000 n/t
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:56 AM
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9. I happen to think that Democratic candidates shouldn't take money from republican operatives.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 11:57 AM by msanthrope
If that makes me a 'centrist', then so be it...

Now, are you seriously suggesting that having your presidential campaign funded primarily by the guy who organized the Brook Brother's riot makes you 'decent?'

And oh yeah--Al is for equality for all, except "white interlopers."

"He's the man who sparked the rage in Harlem in 1995 against a Jewish storeowner who wanted to expand. Sharpton called him "a white interloper" at a rally; eight people were later killed in a fire set by one of the protesters.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1203/p01s04-uspo.html/(page)/3
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:31 PM
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12. Good Lord
Here we go again.

Nothing like people bringing up 15, 20 and 25 year old events to bash Rev. Sharpton with - completely ignoring how he has grown as a leader and advocate and become a tremendously positive force in the Democratic Party and the nation as a whole.
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:39 PM
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13. As a race hustler Sharpton has probablky done far more harm than good
Sorry to say, he in fact has not gained any credibility since Tawana Brawley.
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:48 PM
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14. You think he has done nothing to gain credibility in the past 20 years?
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 05:52 PM by Empowerer
You have not been paying attention.

I'm curious to know what "harm" he's done in the past 15 years and how it has outweighed the many, many positive things he's done during the same period. Please be specific.

FYI - your use of the term "race hustler" speaks volumes - since this is an epithet that seems to be used only against black people who have the temerity to speak up about racial fairness. I have never heard this term used to describe any white person - not one, ever. It is only applied to black people who tell it like it is. I have no doubt that if Rev. Sharpton were white and he said and did the very same things he has said and done in the past 15 years, many so-called liberals would be singing his praises - and he'd surely be a DU hero. But he's a black man, so he's dismissed with a sneer as a "race hustler."


Rev. Al Sharpton's speech to the 2004 Democratic Convention - if he's a "race hustler," I wish we had more race hustlers in our party. We can really use them.

Tonight I want to address my remarks in two parts.

One, I'm honored to address the delegates here.

Last Friday, I had the experience in Detroit of hearing President George Bush make a speech. And in the speech, he asked certain questions. I hope he's watching tonight. I would like to answer your questions, Mr. President.

To the chairman, our delegates, and all that are assembled, we're honored and glad to be here tonight.
. . .
We are here 228 years after right here in Boston we fought to establish the freedoms of America. The first person to die in the Revolutionary War is buried not far from here, a Black man from Barbados, named Crispus Attucks.

Forty years ago, in 1964, Fannie Lou Hamer and the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party stood at the Democratic convention in Atlantic City fighting to preserve voting rights for all America and all Democrats, regardless of race or gender.
Hamer's stand inspired Dr. King's march in Selma, which brought about the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Twenty years ago, Reverend Jesse Jackson stood at the Democratic National Convention in San Francisco, again, appealing to the preserve those freedoms.

Tonight, we stand with those freedoms at risk and our security as citizens in question.

I have come here tonight to say, that the only choice we have to preserve our freedoms at this point in history is to elect John Kerry the president of the United States.

I stood with both John Kerry and John Edwards on over 30 occasions during the primary season. I not only debated them, I watched them, I observed their deeds, I looked into their eyes. I am convinced that they are men who say what they mean and mean what they say.

I'm also convinced that at a time when a vicious spirit in the body politic of this country that attempts to undermine America's freedoms -- our civil rights, and civil liberties -- we must leave this city and go forth and organize this nation for victory for our party and John Kerry and John Edwards in November.

And let me quickly say, this is not just about winning an election. It's about preserving the principles on which this very nation was founded.

. . .

We are also faced with the prospect of in the next four years that two or more of the Supreme Court Justice seats will become available. This year we celebrated the anniversary of Brown v. the Board of Education.

This court has voted five to four on critical issues of women's rights and civil rights. It is frightening to think that the gains of civil and women rights and those movements in the last century could be reversed if this administration is in the White House in these next four years.

I suggest to you tonight that if George Bush had selected the court in '54, Clarence Thomas would have never got to law school.

This is not about a party. This is about living up to the promise of America. The promise of America says we will guarantee quality education for all children and not spend more money on metal detectors than computers in our schools.

The promise of America guarantees health care for all of its citizens and doesn't force seniors to travel to Canada to buy prescription drugs they can't afford here at home.

The promise of America provides that those who work in our health care system can afford to be hospitalized in the very beds they clean up every day.

The promise of America is that government does not seek to regulate your behavior in the bedroom, but to guarantee your right to provide food in the kitchen.

The issue of government is not to determine who may sleep together in the bedroom, it's to help those that might not be eating in the kitchen.

The promise of America that we stand for human rights, whether it's fighting against slavery in the Sudan, where right now Joe Madison and others are fasting, around what is going on in the Sudan; AIDS in Lesotho; a police misconduct in this country.

The promise of America is one immigration policy for all who seek to enter our shores, whether they come from Mexico, Haiti or Canada, there must be one set of rules for everybody.

We cannot welcome those to come and then try and act as though any culture will not be respected or treated inferior. We cannot look at the Latino community and preach "one language." No one gave them an English test before they sent them to Iraq to fight for America.

The promise of America is that every citizen vote is counted and protected, and election schemes do not decide the election.

It, to me, is a glaring contradiction that we would fight, and rightfully so, to get the right to vote for the people in the capital of Iraq in Baghdad, but still don't give the federal right to vote for the people in the capital of the United States, in Washington, D.C.

Mr. President, as I close, Mr. President, I heard you say Friday that you had questions for voters, particularly African- American voters. And you asked the question: Did the Democratic Party take us for granted? Well, I have raised questions. But let me answer your question.

You said the Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and Frederick Douglass. It is true that Mr. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, after which there was a commitment to give 40 acres and a mule.

That's where the argument, to this day, of reparations starts. We never got the 40 acres. We went all the way to Herbert Hoover, and we never got the 40 acres.

We didn't get the mule. So we decided we'd ride this donkey as far as it would take us.

Mr. President, you said would we have more leverage if both parties got our votes, but we didn't come this far playing political games. It was those that earned our vote that got our vote. We got the Civil Rights Act under a Democrat. We got the Voting Rights Act under a Democrat. We got the right to organize under Democrats.

Mr. President, the reason we are fighting so hard, the reason we took Florida so seriously, is our right to vote wasn't gained because of our age. Our vote was soaked in the blood of martyrs, soaked in the blood of good men (inaudible) soaked in the blood of four little girls in Birmingham. This vote is sacred to us.

This vote can't be bargained away.

This vote can't be given away.

Mr. President, in all due respect, Mr. President, read my lips: Our vote is not for sale.

And there's a whole generation of young leaders that have come forward across this country that stand on integrity and stand on their traditions, those that have emerged with John Kerry and John Edwards as partners, like Greg Meeks, like Barack Obama, like our voter registration director, Marjorie Harris, like those that are in the trenches.

And we come with strong family values. Family values is not just those with two-car garages and a retirement plan. Retirement plans are good. But family values also are those who had to make nothing stretch into something happening, who had to make ends meet.

I was raised by a single mother who made a way for me. She used to scrub floors as a domestic worker, put a cleaning rag in her pocketbook and ride the subways in Brooklyn so I would have food on the table.

But she taught me as I walked her to the subway that life is about not where you start, but where you're going. That's family values.

And I wanted somebody in my community -- I wanted to show that example. As I ran for president, I hoped that one child would come out of the ghetto like I did, could look at me walk across the stage with governors and senators and know they didn't have to be a drug dealer, they didn't have to be a hoodlum, they didn't have to be a gangster, they could stand up from a broken home, on welfare, and they could run for president of the United States.

As you know, I live in New York. I was there September 11th when that despicable act of terrorism happened.

A few days after, I left home, my family had taken in a young man who lost his family. And as they gave comfort to him, I had to do a radio show that morning. When I got there, my friend James Entome (ph) said, "Reverend, we're going to stop at a certain hour and play a song, synchronized with 990 other stations."

I said, "That's fine."

He said, "We're dedicating it to the victims of 9/11."

I said, "What song are you playing?"

He said "America the Beautiful." The particular station I was at, the played that rendition song by Ray Charles.

As you know, we lost Ray a few weeks ago, but I sat there that morning and listened to Ray sing through those speakers, "Oh beautiful for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain, for purple mountains' majesty across the fruited plain."

And it occurred to me as I heard Ray singing, that Ray wasn't singing about what he knew, because Ray had been blind since he was a child. He hadn't seen many purple mountains. He hadn't seen many fruited plains. He was singing about what he believed to be.

Mr. President, we love America, not because all of us have seen the beauty all the time.

But we believed if we kept on working, if we kept on marching, if we kept on voting, if we kept on believing, we would make America beautiful for everybody.

Starting in November, let's make America beautiful again.

Thank you. And God bless you.







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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 09:08 PM
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16. You've got to be kidding.
I see Sharpton frequently on TV. He's a race hustler. That's what he does. That's how he makes his money. Race doesn't bother me. I have nothing against anyone because of their race. You can't lay that guilt trip on me. Sharpton makes a good living by exploiting his media-given status as a race hustler. He's a race hustler. So is Jessee Jackson.
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 02:18 AM
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18. Of course he and Rev. Jackson are "race hustlers" - they're black men who have the gall
to address the issue of race in America in more depth than some white people are comfortable with.

As I said, only black people are EVER referred to in such insulting and racially-insensitive terms.

But it's nothing new. For centuries, people have tried to shut up and shut down black people who do not show appropriate deference to the sensitivities of whites. The worst perpetrators of this behavior are not right-wing bigots but so-called liberals who love to acknowledge that racism exists, but never seem to believe that it exists in THIS situation or in THIS situation or in THIS situation. And then they sanctimoniously lecture those of us who see it differently, telling us that our speaking up about it in THIS situation is crying wolf and will make it harder to address racism when it really does come into play.

And if Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton are involved, as sure as day follows night, they are accuse of being "race hustlers" or "race pimps" - and if only one of them is involved, in two shakes of a lamb's tail, the other one's name is invoked regardless how irrelevant they are to the discussion.

But this is nothing new - the folks who engage in this are hardly original. Our history is replete with people who were accused of being race hustlers, because they spoke truths that white folks didn't want to hear - Dr. King was a race hustler, Malcolm X was a race hustler. W.E.B. DuBois was a race hustler. So were Marcus Garvey and Frederick Douglass and Booker T. Washington and many others.


And before anyone says "how dare you compare Al Sharpton to Dr. King," I remind you that Dr. King has only recently been elevated to sainthood status. Back in his day, he was dismissed by many as just another race hustler, too.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 03:09 PM
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21. By your definition,
so was Rev Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Huey Newton, Angela Davis, Elridge Cleaver and H Rap Brown. Thank goodness for the race hustlers. Without them many Americans would not have an equal chance at a decent education, a decent job, decent housing, etc.

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 09:44 PM
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17. He accepted Repub money for his 2004 campaign. Not so long ago.
Tell ya what--maybe 20 years from now -I'll consider forgiving that.
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:52 PM
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20. Yikes - he took REPUBLICAN money?!?!?!
No Democrat has EVER done that before or since! What was I THINKING about criticizing anyone for calling him a "race hustler?!" Anyone who takes money from Republicans deserves to be called that!

:sarcasm:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 03:45 PM
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22. Beautiful speech. Thanks for the post.
Al does his homework and is very well spoken. I voted for him in the Texas primary after Dean dropped out.

They invite him on talk shows probably because of the controversy factor but he does get to say his piece.

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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 07:55 PM
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15. I believe
If MLK were alive, he would be doing the same as Al Sharpton. He would also be called a race baiter among other things by some. Plus, he probably would have made the same mistake about the Tawana Brawley incident.

The way I remember it, Rev. MLK, Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev Al were all on the same page.
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 10:23 AM
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19. Exactly!
For some reason, some people think it's ok to pay lip service to issues of race yet anyone who devotes their lives and careers to trying to do something about it are called "race hustlers" and "race pimps."

Women who fight for gender equality aren't called "gender hustlers." Gay activists aren't called "sexual orientation pimps." Disability rights advocates aren't called "disability hustlers."

Yet African Americans - or at least African American men- who fight for racial fairness and equality are dismissed out of hand as "race pimps" and "race hustlers," often by the very same people who love to boast about how liberal and open-minded they are.

It's downright sickening - and very, very telling.
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