Please President Obama: When you speak in New York, do not allow George Bush to share the stage.....

[Rowdyboy]

Please, please don't. Nor Rudy "9/11" Guiliani. You earned this-they did shit. Don't allow your decency to give these scum any undeserved validity. Please...

The codpiece is reason enough...

[bluestateguy]

1. I...wasn't aware that he was

That would be very stupid.

[Rowdyboy]

4. Its simply a rumor that I really hope is bullshit but it sounds just like Obama....

Must reach out and share credit in a bipartisan fashion. I hope I'm wrong

[guruoo]

45. There's really no choice. He has to do it. nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. Remember how they kept Clinton away those first couple of years because

they feared the big dawg would overshadow Bush? Problem with bringing in Bush in at this juncture is that it won't have the uniting factor that Obama may think it will have.

[RichGirl]

30. It's not going to unite who?

Democrats with democrats??? I think the plan is to unite everyone...to not have it be political. There are a lot of republicans who aren't teabaggers who respect Bush. Bush, for better or worse, was president on 9/11...to not invite him would be really petty and small. And Obama doesn't have to worry about anyone overshadowing him.

[The Backlash Cometh]

34. I completely disagree. Everything in this country is political.

Ever since Newt Gingrich's revolution, the Republican party became very singular minded. Obama, catering to Bush at this point, will only create campaign moments for the Republicans. They will never be forced to accept that Bush's way, was the wrong way. So all that ill-thought out planning that Bush's administration was known for, will turn into American policy. It will be legitimized. Instead of a more diplomatic method that would have listened to Hans Blitz and Joseph Wilson.

[RichGirl]

50. Everything is political with the leadership....

But the people can for a few hours set politics aside and just feel the moment of unity. I have friends and family who are republicans and voted for McCain. But on election night they totally got into the moment. I got many positive calls and emails that night and on the days that followed. I had worked so hard on the campaign and they were all very happy for me.

But, fortunately, Bush won't be there. It showed a lot of class for Obama to invite him. I'm very glad he declined.

BTW...the republicans totally distanced themselves from Bush since he left office. No one even wanted him campaigning for them. He's even more pathetic now so there's no way any republican candidate is going to use this event in their campaigns. Why would they remind people that Obama got OBL and not Bush.

[The Backlash Cometh]

51. As far as inviting Bush to the ceremony, it all worked out for the best.

How often does that happen?

[tekisui]

2. I don't understand the need to speak in NY. I thought the speech

was the right tone at the right time.

[Rowdyboy]

5. While his original speech was perfect, certainly he must speak in New York....

From the looks of the street demonstrators, they want him pretty badly. Its just the last part of a long grieving process thats lasted far too long. Of course he should speak there, its part of his job.

[Drunken Irishman]

8. It's a good symbolic move.

Obama hasn't visited Ground Zero since becoming president. This would be an awesome first visit.

Plus, Democrats should get to gloat too. God knows we put up with eight years of Bush's patriotic photo ops.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. George Bush allowed Bin Laden to attack

[MissDeeds]

46. Agreed

There is absolutely no getting around the Presidential Daily Brief that said "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" being ignored. Bin Laden's name had been linked with terrorism for years. The Bush cabal had been warned about him repeatedly. It was more than a oversight by an ignornat, totally inept administation. It was intentional.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

49. Bush and Cheney had so many clues available

They didn't even have a proper defense system set up to deal with rogue aircraft. It was although the government was asleep in 2001.

[dkf]

6. The bigger person wins.

I would prefer President Obama not be petty. He has always impressed me with his instincts in this area.

[vroomvroom]

7. He Will...That's just want Obama Does. You'll see.

[lamp_shade]

9. I'm okay with it but ONLY if Bill Clinton is there too.

[Ikonoklast]

14. That is an excellent idea, Bill needs to be there, too.

Just for the lulz.





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[Donnachaidh]

16. why? Bill Clinton wasn't in office for 9/11

Personally, I don't want Bush there, especially if his people knew where Osama was and did NOTHING to get him. Why allow a weasel to share a stage he did nothing to merit?

[The Backlash Cometh]

35. The Repubs blame him for not taking him down in 1998.

So, Clinton had two years to bring him down. Bush had eight years. And Obama had two years.

Who was the most efficient?

[MyUncle]

21. Please bring em all. No time for pettiness

Bring Big Dog, I belive his daughter was living in NYC. Invite Bush, Rudy, all of them. There will be only one speach of significance.

All the video will show President Obama on the stage and everyone else sitting, watching and acknowledging the moment with our President talking down to them from the stage while they listen.

We don't "own" 9-11, we own the closest thing we'll ever get to a solution.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Obama's a bigger person than you are

I'm glad for that. It's better for the country.

[Rowdyboy]

11. You'll get no argument from me on that point.....He is a FAR bigger person than I.....

and I'm glad for it too. I would make a horrendous president! Still I'll be nauseas if I see GWB anywhere near Ground Zero. He had little or no interest in Bin Laden while he was in office and doesn't deserve the credit now regardless of the Presidents apparent overwhelming need for "bipartisanship" in all things.

[golfguru]

12. Internal squabbles stop with all foreign enemies

That is the grown up way.

[msanthrope]

13. Oh, no. Having Bush and Ghouliani to share the stage would be appropriate

and the perfect counterpoint.

In fact, I'll go far enough as to say that Cheney ought to be there---

As many sour pusses as possible, to drive the message home--

[jillan]

18. I'm with you. Show the losers standing along side the one who got it done.

[jillan]

17. I'm starting to think this would be a good thing. Obama will get all the love and all the networks

will be covering it.

It could possibly shut up all the rw spin that Osama was killed thanks to Bsh.

[jenmito]

19. The ONLY place I saw this was on the Freepers' site when a Freeper wrote that Obama

SHOULD have Bush with him at Ground Zero. This was what s/he wrote: "Obama: Bring George W Bush to Ground Zero on Thursday (Vanity)" Then there are a whole bunch of posts saying Obama would NEVER do that because he's "classless," "narcissistic," and MUCH worse. There's no truth to the rumor that he'll show up with Bush.

[JustJess42]

20. here we go again.

I think there are a ton of people out there that are paid bloggers trying to change the feeling of this accomplishment. They would love it if the President would distance himself from this altogether. Why should he not be proud of making the call to do this? He is the President , he made the call, he should be proud of this and so should America. Not just Dems but all of us Americans we said we would get him and we did.

[Rowdyboy]

22. George Bush deliberately let him go free....he doesn't deserve the credit....

But welcome to DU anyway. :hi:

[bigwillq]

23. Hello.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[RamboLiberal]

24. Sorry but this is not time to be petty

If Bush and Rudy are there, so be it. IMHO this only makes Obama even more presidential!

[Rowdyboy]

25. If everyone agreed this would be a horribly boring discussion board!

And DU is NEVER boring. I could possibly stomach Bush if Clinton is there but not St Rudy, not ever under any circumstances.

[RamboLiberal]

26. Rudy needs to be there as well

The guy is a peacock and narcissist and while it was a horrible decision to put the emergency command center in WTC7 for the most part he outperformed Bush in steadiness and guts for the week following 9-11.

Rudy was a good leader for a short period during the crisis. Before and afterwards not so much and 9-11 is all he has to run on.

[Rowdyboy]

27. As I said, how boring it would be if we all agreed on everything....

And we really, really, really don't agree.

[RamboLiberal]

31. Yeah - also would be really really stupid to hand RW this talking point

Obama is not as petty as Palin, or Rudy. And even though I can't stand Bush, on this I don't think he would be petty.

[The Backlash Cometh]

36. That is not how the Republicans will see it.

Obama took all the risk. He should only share the stage with those brave men who he could count on to complete the mission.

[jenmito]

28. From where did you get this rumor? n/t

[Rowdyboy]

38. Not repeating a rumor....Having experienced 2 years of Obama's presidency

I've seen time and time again that he seems fixated on reaching out to Republicans in everything, whether they are deserving or not. And Republicans time after time accept the kudos then spit in his face. I'm tired of that scenario and was expressing my hopes that he doesn't repeat this (IMHO) error again. I've neither heard nor seen any rumor to this effect-I'm sorry I thought I was clear that I was expressing my opinion-otherwise I would have sourced the statement.

[jenmito]

39. OK-so if/when you're wrong, will you start another thread praising him for NOT including Bush? n/t

[Rowdyboy]

43. I would have no problem with that.....I rarely start threads these days

but I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. I actually try to keep an open mind-something in very short supply here lately.

Short answer-sure.

[jenmito]

47. OK. Good. n/t

[young_at_heart]

29. A poster showing him just sitting at the school would be good

A real leader would have immediately taken action if the country was under a major attack. He sat for seven minutes!! Show a poster of that and maybe people will notice the difference in presidents.

[RichGirl]

32. If you think for a minute that Obama wouldn't include him...you don't know Obama.

He's about uniting people, not dividing them. He's also not going to alienate people who respect Bush. Or the republican leadership.

I can't even imagine why anyone would think for a second that Obama would shun the president who was in office during 9/11!!!!! That would be so small and petty of him!

He will invite him. Whether he comes or not is up to him.

[krabigirl]

42. Why wouldn't he include bush? He is following the same policies.

[Johnny2X2X]

33. 5 stages of grief

Watching RWers this week, it's obvious they are going through the 5 stages of grief in regards to Bin Laden getting killed at Obama's order:

1. Denial- "He's not dead...it's all staged to get Obama's ratings up...show us a body..."

2. Anger- "Obama is taking all the credit...he needs to thank the troops more..."

3. Bargaining- "It's all because of W's torture campaign that we got a name several years ago...er, Bush had something to do with it somehow."

4. Depression- "This is horrible, I'm not going to talk about this anymore, what about the economy?"

5. Acceptance/Spin- "Whatever, anyone could have done what Obama did, it took him long enough to act on the intelligence, it doesn't even matter in the war on terror, Obama should thank Bush."

Seriously, it is the 5 stages of grief right now. It's almost painful to watch. They keep spinning and twisting, but at the end of the day Obama succeeded where Bush failed, that's all that anyone will be able to make of this whole thing.

[RichGirl]

37. I can't believe....

How juvenile, vindictive and mean spirited so many posters on this thread and another one on the same subject are!! It's makes me ashamed.

My problem with freepers isn't just that I disagree with them, it's the ugliness, the pettiness, hateful attitude. Many DUers are no different
than freepers...not class whatsoever...just the other side of the same coin. You certainly don't make Obama look good!

[Rowdyboy]

40. What a hateful response to opinion differing from your own. Why are you on

a discussion board if you expect everyone to march in lockstep with your own "obviously superior" views?

I really have difficulty believing that opinions expressed on a heavily liberal message board will affect the President's reputation one way or the other. I consider both my post and your response as totally insignificant in the overall scheme of things. The only difference between us is that I choose not to be rude and condescending to people I disagree with. In your case I'll make an exception.

on edit: calling other members "freepers" is neither classy nor allowed here. I'm sure someone will have alerted on you by now.

[AtomicKitten]

41. I completely agree with you on this.

[guruoo]

44. He'll just have to hold his nose and do it. nt

[SpartanDem]

48. Where is all this bush talk coming from

I haveb't seen a single story saying he is going to NY?