If abortion rights are further eroded, are you still for this HCR bill?

[eleny]

I see in LBN that Ben Nelson is now piping up negatively about the bill's language.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4188704

[quiller4]

1. Yes just as I supported the House Bill with Stupek attached.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. I saw that and thought the same thing

I view the senate bill as a very close, agonizing call.

If it involves any anti-choice bullshit then that is a scale-tipper.

[AuntPatsy]

3. Good question.. I am curious as to the replies you will get...

[eleny]

AuntPatsy, I'm past the time to worry about that right for myself

But my generation was afforded the right as it was originally handed down by the Supreme Court. These days, people don't have the historical knowledge of how it was for women before Roe V Wade. I fear for what waits for the younger women.

[AuntPatsy]

10. You and I both, I want to scream when I read and or hear someone

so easily dismissing the rights of pro choice...I want to force them to watch in living color lives that should not have been but were lost and how they were lost to the ignorance of using this issue as nothing more than a wedge issue in ensuring votes and or total obedience as in religious orders...Like you, I fear the future generation of females that constantly have to fight for their personal rights, what does that say about our country?

What ever happened with moving foward and focusing on issues that honestly matter....

I am enraged and saddened at the very same time..up and down emotions such as that are not exactly a healthy way to live life....

[eleny]

11. To your last thought....

We've been on a wild mouse ride lately. Seems like a mouse ride that flew off the track yesterday. Reconciling Obama the candidate with Obama the president is a difficult exercise where HCR is concerned.

[Armstead]

4. Of course. Something is better than nothing. Don't let the perfect be enemy of good

No I don't mean it. But that will be the latest rationalization

[sandnsea]

5. If we have the Hyde Amendment, as we do now

Then it's fine. The Stupak Amendment never did everything the reactionaries said it did, just like subsidized insurance was just fine when Howard Dean proposed it 4 years ago. And just like the outrage was dropping the ball on Afghanistan - until Obama picked it up.

At least the freepers are consistent in their insanity, I'll give them that.

[GreenPartyVoter]

You know, I think that right behind the idea of pulling all the power from the insurance corps the

notion of the a woman's ability to get an abortion when and where she needs it is probably a key reason for TPTB not allowing us to have single payer universal health care.

[AndyA]

6. The government has no business in people's bedrooms.

This is a private issue that the government should stay the hell out of.

Separation of church and state. The freedom FROM religion.

The founders could have written in protections for the unborn, but they chose not to.

I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for war, or for corrupt politicians. Since I don't have that choice, neither should anyone else be able to specify what that money is spent on.

In short, butt the hell out, it's no one's business but the woman who has to make the decision. I support a woman's right to choose without interference.

[kestrel91316]

7. Americans don't want safe, legal abortions to be available. I no longer care.

Give the masses what they want, and so be it.

[eleny]

8. Jan Shakowsky just told Ed Schultz she would vote no if the bill contained Stupak language

She said she wasn't going to go along with any language that took women back to coat hangers and back alley abortions.

[WeDidIt]

9. I guarantee women will have no insurance coverage for abortions EVER AGAIN

It's sad that the last best hope to restore the right to choose to women will be Republicans repealing a Democratic bill.

We have truly crossed some apex in the space-time continuum and are now in Bizarro world.