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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:06 PM
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I bet Ned Lamont would be a FIERCE ADVOCATE of
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 03:07 PM by mdmc
ending our foreign wars
ending our drug war
supporting real health care reform
supporting gay rights
supporting environmental protection..

It is just a guess, but the DLC must feel pretty silly for not supporting Ned Lamont. Most progressives and liberals must feel pretty silly about not supporting Ned Lamont..
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:09 PM
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1. The DLC got the man they wanted.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:15 PM
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6. Yup. n/t
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:09 PM
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2. I think you're wrong in part.
I'm guessing most liberals and progressive did support Lamont. He did, after all, win the primary.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:11 PM
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3. That is correct, he did win the primary and did ran as a Democrat
It is too bad that all dems didn't set up and represent for him..

peace and low stress and thank you for the reply..
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:11 PM
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4. The DLCers are NOT liberal by any stretch of your imagination. They did get the
Senator they wanted in LIEberman.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:27 PM
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9. It was the liberals and progressives who organized around Lamont. I know, because I was part of it.
I went to his organizing meeting in January of 06. When I saw the primary as being in early August, my hopes sank and I thought "How in the world are we gonna do this and GOTV at a time when half the state is on vacation?" But the energy around Lamont was immense and suddenly he became hot on the Internet.
Every liberal I knew in New Haven was doing SOMETHING on his campaign, even if it was just lowly phone banking, like me. One volunteer in his office that summer was French kid in his late teens...I wondered how he got hooked up with Ned Lamont!

I think a part of Joe died when he saw the crowds moving on, away from him like he was so much garbage. He had ignored the signs, the impatience we were having with him. He wasn't around any more at the local diner where he used to meet and greet. I never saw him walking to shul with Hadassah and their baby girl in our neighborhood, which I often did on Saturday morning as I was heading off to Jazzercise class. Then, of course, he sold his house here in New Haven and within about a year, out of New Haven entirely and (they said) to residence in Stamford (as close to NY as you can get).

He rarely is seen back here...and for good reason...
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:24 PM
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45. Yup, my conservative parents voted for Joe. He won with Repubs and
some conservative Dems. Liberals abandoned Joe a long time ago when he abandoned us. And I guess New Haven was not good enough for him. (I grew up in Cheshire by the way, but couldn't get out fast enough. Too many kids driving BMWS to school.)
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:11 PM
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5. You are just here to divide people
is that what gets you up everyday?


This is just another flamebait from you.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:22 PM
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7. the relief of suffering and love of family get me up everyday
I come to DU to see what is going on in the big tent. I love to see what Obamabots, DLC'ers, Liberals, Progressives, and Radicals have to say about the goings on in the world.

My OP points out the value of supporting one candidate over another. Perhaps we would be better off with Ned Lamont in the Senate. Perhaps Leiberman was a better choice.

imho, as a radical leftie, I think it was a bad mistake to support Leiberman. As a firm supporter of Obama, perhaps it was the right choice. Time alone, time will tell..
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:25 PM
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8. I'm curious - who would I be dividing? Lamont supporters v. Leiberman supporters?
Is that the division that you think my OP stirs up?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:30 PM
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23. Due respect, Senator Lieberman is a complete piece of shit
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 05:32 PM by Hippo_Tron
No matter where you stand on passing the legislation we have now or supporting the President (and believe me I'm more supportive of it and him than a lot of people here), it is pretty much indisputable that this process would've gone better if Ned Lamont were in the Senate instead of Joe Lieberman. The OP is absolutely correct and frankly I don't see anything divisive about it. Obstructing the largest piece of the party's domestic agenda just to be a prima donna and get a health insurance lobbying job in a few years is fucking unacceptable.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 07:49 AM
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29. KICK
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:12 AM
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32. kick?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:14 AM
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33. YOU LIE!
Joe Wilson
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:33 PM
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34. kick?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 06:16 PM
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36. KICK, YO
Kick
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:35 PM
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46. Confirmed: The OP is *not* the Connecticut electorate.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:47 PM
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10. The repukes voted Lieberman into office!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:04 PM
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11. Too bad Obama campaigned for Lieberman.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:10 PM
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13. IN THE FUCKING PRIMARY. LIEBERMAN LOST THE PRIMARY.
OBAMA THEN SUPPORTED NED FUCKING LAMONT.

FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:22 PM
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20. Did Obama campaign for Lamont?
I thought they sat out that election..
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:24 PM
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15. Talking to you is like arguing with a dining room table
paraphrasing Barney of course.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:09 PM
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12. I bet NED LAMONT would have waved his magic wand and given me everything I wanted.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:55 PM
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19. He'd have given my daughter a Unicorn. n/t.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:25 PM
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21. Perhaps he could have been a Senator that Ted Kennedy would have been proud of
Of course perhaps Teddy is proud of the nobility Joementum has shown for standing up for what he believes in..
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:16 PM
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14. Sorry, but most "progressives and liberals" voted for Lamont
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 05:15 PM by Renew Deal
Lieberman won on republicans and independents

VOTE BY PARTY ID TOTAL Lieberman Lamont Schlesinger
Democrat (38%) 33% 65% 2%
Republican (26%) 70% 8% 21%
Independent (36%) 54% 35% 10%


VOTE BY IDEOLOGY TOTAL Lieberman Lamont Schlesinger
Liberal (26%) 27% 69% 3%
Moderate (53%) 55% 36% 8%
Conservative (21%) 66% 13% 21%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006//pages/results/states/CT/S/01/epolls.0.html
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:26 PM
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16. Too bad the people of CT blew it, including 30% of dems who voted Lieberman in general election.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:28 PM
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17. You think the DLC wants shit to go well?
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:51 PM
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18. That was such an odious scene
watching all those senators and the former prez going to CT to campaign against the explicit choice made by the Dems of CT as to who they wanted to be their Senator.

They are paying for that traitorous act - and I'd enjoy the schaedenfruede but for the cold hard fact that we are hurting a lot more than those bozos are because of what they did.

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:29 PM
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22. Yep.. shameful joy
Obama may have made a mistake hitching his star to Joementum..
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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:32 PM
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24. Wrong!
Progressives DID support Lamont in his senate bid.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:46 AM
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25. Second what Garam_Masala said. DLC got their man too.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:20 AM
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26. Amen! 100%...
God bless us, all.
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soapystern Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:33 AM
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27. jeez obama
Lieberman is working for mcain
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:36 AM
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28. thought for a while last year McSame was gonna pick Joementum for VP!
Thankfully for us he gave us the laughing stock that is PALIN.


:hi: welcome to DU!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:52 PM
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30. Enjoy your stay at DU my friend
Peace and low stress.. even to the trolls..
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:54 PM
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31. yes, they must
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:34 AM
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39. yes
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:38 PM
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35. CT was the one that shit the bed on that one.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 06:26 PM
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37. Lieberman was DLC's guy
and AIPAC sent a couple of its operatives to help Holy Joe against Lamont.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 06:28 PM
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38. If he had been voted in, the problem would not be there, would it?
Presumably he would have supported the public option. There would have been 59 Democrats and Sanders.

Nelson would have held out for more. They realize they have this power. Remember before Franken came in it was Snowe and Collins.

Maybe they are doing it for their constituents though, or could easily claim that. If you get to be the one in the middle, you are in power in the Senate and it's a windfall for your state.
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LastNaturalist Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:36 AM
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40. Ned who?
Oh, the guy that's as relevant as Howie Dean. What are their current political titles?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:37 PM
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41. Ned could very well be CT's next governor.
But go ahead and belittle him if that makes you feel better about yourself.
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LastNaturalist Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:38 PM
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42. Thanks it does. And this was 2006. Do you speculate about a Dukakis presidency too?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:47 PM
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43. Ned is running, and he is tied in the polls for the Democratic nomination.
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 01:47 PM by Alexander
Your ignorance knows no bounds.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:21 PM
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44. Uh, the liberals in CT (where I have lived all 34 of my years) supported Lamont.
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 02:25 PM by Jennicut
Some conservative and moderate Dems supported Joe Loserman but he got elected with more Rethugs then Dems. Please get the facts correct. Progressives in CT never supported Lieberman in 2006 or after, including me.
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