Count on it, Folks: Palin IS Running

[Viking 1]

I've known this since Election Night 2008, when she got miffed that she couldn't speak as part of McCain's concession event.

Now, many of you feel that she's vamping for attention to further raise her profile, so she can make even more money. That's been the conventional wisdom for quite awhile now. But it ignores one very crucial factor: Her ego.

Palin's sense of self-importance is bigger than that country she claims to see from her porch. Hey, who are we kidding? It's bigger than the whole fucking planet! And that's the type of megalomania that NO amount of money can satisfy. Mark it down, people: Sister Dumb-as-Two-Mules Sarah is running.

Personally, I look forward to this: If she wins the GOP nomination, Obama will achieve a 50-state sweep in November, PLUS each and every Democrat will be guaranteed 8,621 belly-laughs.

[apnu]

1. Yeah... "does a bear shit in the woods." comes to mind. (nt)

[Avant Guardian]

2. But in Palin's case...

...the bear uses Charmin and eats at taco bell 4 times a week.

[Cracklin Charlie]

13. Charmin smells

Not surprised that $arah uses Charmin. It smells so nasty, is that a Koch product? I can smell it sometimes when I walk into someone's house.

And I think $arah is running. The people that are paying her will make her run. That kind of money doesn't grow on trees. I don't think she has a choice. It won't be pretty.

Bless her heart.

[boppers]

54. Product list:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/08/24/895947/-Boycott-Koch-Products

Charmin's not on it.

[Drale]

3. I don't know but

The Coyotes use the trails at Grand Canyon National Park.:rofl:

[golfguru]

65. I know perhaps more repubs than any one on this board

because I play golf at the best private club in southern Washington state. I talk politics often even though I am outnumbered 10:1. And NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA will vote for Palin in the primaries. They are unanimous in saying she is an air head.

[leftynyc]

66. But will they vote for her in the general

The republican primary is going to be a giant clusterfuck with the winner getting only a plurality of votes so I can see her getting the nomination (although I disagree with the OP - I don't think she's going to run - too much work). If it comes down to it, will these golfers trust her with the nuke codes?

[jenmito]

4. I disagree 100%. She's still working at Faux. She, like Huckabee, wouldn't still be there

if she were running. She's pulling a Trump for publicity-for her brand. She needs attention which has been waning big time, which means her value (for paid speeches, books, etc.) is waning, too. That's the only reason she's pretending she might run.

[Parker CA]

10. I'm 100% in agreement with this. She won't take the pay cut either. It's all about $$$ for Palin. nt

[jenmito]

14. Thank you. It's pretty obvious to me that this is the case. n/t

[IDemo]

23. Agreed.

I think the OP is correct on only one point: her ego is continent sized. Don't see her getting her s&^% together anytime soon enough for a run, though.

[AlinPA]

26. She will use Fox "news" to launch her campaign and they will build up the announcement

as a big spectacle.

[golfguru]

50. You nailed it n/t

[jenmito]

5. Watch this segment of Lawrence O'Donnell explaining (last night) why she's not running:

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/?videoDate=20110526

[chowder66]

8. I agree with you and LO...IMO she is just using it to raise $$. eom

[jenmito]

15. Yup. n/t

[stevenleser]

21. Saw it, I disagree with him. She basically HAS to run...

her speaking fees are going down and this year is the best chance she has (even though that isnt high). After that she doesnt have a chance even at the nomination It's now or never.

[jenmito]

30. Then I'll bookmark this and we'll see who's right.

I disagree with your disagreement with O'Donnell (and me). ;) I think as long as she "might" be running, her speaking fees will go up. Just the "buzz" around her "maybe" run will be enough, while she continues to collect her Faux News checks.

[stevenleser]

37. Fair enough, but lets set some ground rules...

for instance, I predicted that Trump would run for President. I still believe that he fully intended to do so.

What I could not predict was the President releasing his long form birth certificate and he and the SNL comedian pounding Trump into the ground at the correspondants dinner. Those two events, plus the killing of bin Laden destroyed the possibility of Trump making it. That is why he decided not to run, in my opinion. Had those events not occurred and Trump's standing among other GOP Presidential hopefuls remained high, he would have announced, again in my humble opinion.

So in the case of Trump, those who predicted he would not run feel that they were right, but are they? Sort of. I say they are lucky. The question is, did he intend to run. Does he want to be President. To me the answer to both of those questions is and was yes.

Similarly, it is possible that Sarah will not run, but she is going to try everything to make that run possible. The movie and the bus tour are only the beginning of her efforts. If after everything, she is not in the top three contenders in Iowa or nationally, she will not announce. If she polls in the top three after her efforts, she will enter the race.

O'Donnell criticized how she is going about these things suggesting that the methodology means she is not serious but the incompetence isn't evidence of anything because it's Sarah Palin. Incompetent is her modus operandi.

[jenmito]

43. OK...

but I think you were wrong about Trump, too. He obviously lied about his "investigators" he supposedly sent to Hawaii who were finding so many shocking things out about Obama's BC (or lack thereof). He lied about releasing his tax returns once Obama released his "long form" BC. So, I don't believe he was ever planning on running.

And about Palin, how will we know that she was planning to really run if she doesn't finish in the top three "in Iowa or nationally"? It will be another Trump theory you had. And are you talking about the Iowa Straw Poll? What national poll counts? More details needed...

[stevenleser]

46. Thats the problem, right? How do we know...

... in terms of Trump, I think the way he exited is even more of an indication that he was serious about wanting to be President. With the funds at his disposal, he could have self funded an exploratory committee and used it to gain a whole lot more publicity for himself for a number of months and THEN bowed out if publicity was his goal. I think he was serious and when he started getting polling numbers at the bottom of the pack and with no more sensational stuff to throw out there to regain his status among the leaders, he dropped out. Think about it. Why would a publicity seeker bow out at that point? Hes got nothing going on for a few months. His show aired the final episode of the season.

Palin is going to be more complicated but perhaps we can agree on a standard. If Sarah Palin is polling nationally like she is now in the CNN opinion poll here http://www.pollingreport.com/wh12rep.htm (in other words, in the top 3) AND she is top 3 or better in Iowa polls between now and August and top Two in Iowa thereafter, she will run.

If she maintains those numbers and drops out anyway, you can say I was wrong.

[jenmito]

48. I think we know why Trump dropped out when he did...

the NBC lineup for next season was announced and they were getting inquiries about whether or not the show would be renewed with Trump still in it. They probably MADE him announce that he would return the next season, therefore NOT being able to wait 'til his season finale (which he said was when he'd announce the date of his announcement whether or not he'd run). Even if his poll numbers had been near the top, bin Laden hadn't been killed, Obama hadn't released his BC, etc., he knew he wouldn't be able to keep up his lies and WOULD drop in the polls. He would've had to reveal his financial info., would've been asked what the findings of his "investigators" were, etc. So he couldn't keep the fake campaign going thanks to NBC.

Regarding Palin, OK. I'll go along with your conditions. That's how sure I am of myself. MY theory is that even if she is in the top 2 or 3, she'll claim that she thinks someone else in the race (with better approval ratings) should run.

[Whisp]

33. just watched that, thanks for the link.

[jenmito]

34. No problemo. Did it change your mind? Or did you already agree with him? Or neither? n/t

[Whisp]

35. it changed my mind. She is not running.

I thought she might but O'D nailed it all. She's an disgusting opportunist with slightly better hair than the Donald.

[jenmito]

42. Good...

I think he nailed it, too. :hi:

[Enrique]

6. she has an ego, but she can still read polls

and she can read the checks that keep coming in and that she wants to keep coming in.

[Viking 1]

7. One word: Iowa

She could win that state's Republican base easily, thus winning the caucus. And that's half the nomination right there.

[verges]

9. She can read? Are you sure? nt

[Sheepshank]

11. If she announces, it will be nothing but a perfect confirmation

...of just how truly out of touch she is with reality. She will NOT get the GOP nomination.

I suppose she may run as an indie...and if that is the case, her diluting the Rep vote will be absolutely perfect :)

[Diclotican]

36. Sheepshank

Sheepshank

"of just how truly out of touch she is with reality. She will NOT get the GOP nomination" After GWB I don't belive nothing wil be to dumb, to get the Republican nomination... And I also fear (really fear, in the sense of nightmares) that many americans could more than happy vote for her...

Everything is posible after GWB.. Before him, I doubt she would have had a chance in hell... But when I saw how many americans who "loved and prised" GWBs name.. Im not to sure anymore.. In fact Im little AFRAID about what the next election is given US, and the world of stupid leaders.. One thing is for a smal counry to have a stupid leader.. Another is to have a stupid leader in a country like US...

Diclotican

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. I concur...."Everything is posible after GWB"

[Sheepshank]

47. I'm not sure I agree..but we are all coming up with conjecture.

The global and national situation that favored GWB is not in place for Palin. She is loudly revered by a consistent 23-27% only. That number never seems to waiver. I honestly think she has peaked...she has been over exposed and even the Right trash her way too often that is deemed polite....her popularity has nowhere to go.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. She's running for higher speaking fees just like Trump was "running" for higher ratings. I'd even

put Gingprick on that category.

[wysingm]

17. I totally agree ...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

16. Yeah, but the main reason: TO MAKE MONEY!!

She's a whore to the hilt. And yes, I said it!!

[oberliner]

18. No chance

A 50 state sweep?

Not happening - Palin or no.

[Viking 1]

28. You miss the central point

Which is that SHE WILL RUN IN 2012!

I count five posts agreeing with me, albeit for different reasons. Yea verily, we shall be vindicated! O8)

[oberliner]

29. Probably

But I don't think that will lead to a 50 state victory for Obama.

Are we really gonna carry Utah or Wyoming?

[AlinPA]

40. ..or OK, KS, TX, AL, MS, GA, SC, WV, TN, ID? No.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. She will run but it will be for reasons of her own self centered interest>>>$$$$$

she knows she will NEVER get the GOP nomination

[HipChick]

44. She's not running to win...she'll quit halfway through

and blame the media for being mean to her...

[elocs]

19. I doubt it, though I think she would like to have people think she might.

She's making too much money to make a presidential run.

[Phx_Dem]

20. I don't think she is. In fact, I'd bet on it.

[Ikonoklast]

57. I concur.

Palin is in it for the money, period.

Campaigning is extremely hard work, and if we have seen one thing from Palin, is that she absolutely refuses to do anything difficult.

Showing up for a TV interview is the farthest thing from work, a ten-minute blather and she gets some money, a fifteen-minute speech to the sheep for a paid appearance and she cashes a check, all with a free private jet, hotel room, food, shopping, all paid for by someone else...

She loves that gravy train, and never wants it to end.

[tanyev]

22. She might think she is now, but eventually her laziness will triumph over that giant ego.

[JoePhilly]

24. Only if it is a relay race and she can hand the baton to some one else.

[DCBob]

25. She might hang for awhile until the heat gets too intense and ruins her hairdo..

This is all about being in the spotlight, improving her image and selling tons of books.

[thelordofhell]

27. Yeah, she'll run

In 2016.......right now I think she's eyeing carpetbagging an Arizona Senate seat. Unfortunately, there's enough backwards-ass right-wing idiots here to put her in.

[Thumper79]

31. I disagree

I think Palin can't stand being out of the limelight so she plays her little game of "Look at me! Look at me!" Palin would have been suspended just like Gingrich and Santorum if she had even hinted at a run. (Ailes doesn't like her anyway.) She has done nothing to actually run a campaign or what leads up to one. Palin is nothing more than a publicity whore.

[AlinPA]

41. She will announce her campaign on Fox "news" and they will trumpet it before her show.

[Sherman A1]

55. Agreed

She isn't running, she is simply trying to attract more attention and $'s.

[maxsolomon]

32. I don't care who they nominate or what they say or think.

I will vote for the Democratic candidate as I have always done.

[Avant Guardian]

45. Attentiion = $$

[center rising]

49. Well, Lawrence O'Donnell would disagree with you.

He is 100% sure she isn't running.

[Thrill]

51. Palin is interested in getting Rich

Thats all. Shw knows she will never be President. But as long as she flirts with it. Its enough to get her stupid followers to buy more books

[ccharles000]

52. I hope she runs she would get creamed

[struggle4progress]

53. Good. She'll suck away some of the money and energy. I don't think she has a chance.

An important thing to know about Palin is that she's really only in the game to improve her visibility and personal cash flow. I don't think she really gives a rat's ass about winning the election: being president would be hard boring work. But she does care about getting attention and boosting her earning potential

Anyway, if she starts moving up in the polls, we can take plenty of fair shots at her

[BlueMTexpat]

56. She's getting started ... and she's already caused controversy.

Check it out at Mudflats: http://www.themudflats.net/2011/05/27/the-bus-to-nowhere-palin-hits-the-road/

[BlueIris]

58. Bring it, Ms. Quitter. It will be the most stunning and humiliating defeat of any Republican ever.

And I will cough up a lung laughing.

[NorthCarolina]

59. Saturday Night Live should get funny again then. Looking forward to more Tina Fey!

[AtomicKitten]

60. Lawrence O'Donnell spent last week explaining why she is not running.

Faux News issued a statement indicating her status at the network is unchanged. Translation: She's not running. What she's doing is setting herself on fire for attention to augment her grifting.

[AlinPA]

61. She could make her announcement on Fox. Their ratings would go up when she says that

"my announcement will be made on Fox "news" (date)".

[Raine]

62. I don't agree. IMO she can't stand to have all the attention

on anyone but herself she is doing this to get the attention back on herself ... that's it.

[Raine1967]

63. She's getting ready for a reality show.

Seriously, this woman has NO politial infrastructure in place for a presidential run.

She reminds me of the Salahis -- remember them? They crashed the first WH State dinner. It was a Real housewives of DC stunt.

I have a strong feeling this is the same sort of thing here. Isn't Bristol under some reality show contract? Bristol was here this weekend as well.

I don't think she is running, unless it means trying to trump Trump. And last I heard, she was meeting with him: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/05/31/2011-05-31_sarah_palin_donald_trump_to_meet_for_dinner_in_new_york_trump_tower_followed_by_.html

She's having dinner with TRUMP! She's not a politician, she is a reality show.

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[JAnthony]

67. What a big sick country we have that anyone would EVER think of...

considering her as a bona fide Presidential candidate. SICK!

Of all the people serving in responsible public service jobs, Police and Fire chiefs, Mayors of large cities, administrators in military, and civilian federal jobs, men and women with actual management talent and solid educational attainment ... no one ever considers THEM as "Presidential candidate material" ..why is that??? Why do we ignore the talent and pay attention to an attention-seeking bimbo?

For the media to follow her and pretend she's seriously qualified. SICK!

For 15% of Republicans to waste their vote on this boob, SICK!

[Forkboy]

68. Hope springs eternal!