I feel very confident that Barack Obama would never allow himself to get involved in a sex scandal.

[phleshdef]

Of course that kind of confidence could be betrayed by anyone at anytime.

But as it stands, I believe he is a man that is both faithful to his wife and also too politically intelligent to get caught up in such a risky, petty, dirty, career endangering drama.

He isn't the kind of guy that will ever get caught with his pant down.

This alone probably drives the right wingers insane.

Its probably part of the reason why the attacks against him are so hyperbolic and over the top.

He is too clean of character for them to find anything of substance to go after.

I just think this is something that needed to be said and a quality that needs to be appreciated.

[DrDan]

1. I would have said the same thing about Anthony Weiner week before last

[phleshdef]

4. I wouldn't have said either way. Anthony has barely been married anytime at all.

And as far as I know, he has no children. I've never seen him interact with his wife or his family like we have the President.

Don't get me wrong. I still support Anthony Weiner as a Congressman. His heart is in the right place on the issues. But prior to this, he never gave anyone a reason to predict if he was the type to screw around one way or the other.

[vaberella]

5. Valid point. But I agree with the OP. n/t

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[oviedodem]

2. He has not choice but to be clean; I am sure you can figure out why

[vaberella]

3. Because Michelle has bigger arms and is taller than him in flats? n/t

[oviedodem]

9. If he wants a political career and/or legacy he has to because he is black plain

and simple. If he was to do what Bill did or maybe even Weiner as a congressman; he would be so done it's not funny. Ya Weiner probably wont get reelected but he will still have something.

Do you think for a minute that if Obama admitted to being an alcoholic he would be president like Bush????

[CakeGrrl]

14. Very true. His race causes the bar to be raised MUCH higher.

and even with his high achievements, his qualifications are STILL questioned. Only one reason makes sense.

Apart from that, when he and Michelle considered a serious run at the presidency, they had to have thought about what he would face and what the opposition would do to get the dirt on him. No one can predict the future, but I would be absolutely shocked if the President was so careless. I don't think it'll happen. I think he's one to learn from the lessons of Clinton and others.

[vaberella]

17. I figured mine is more relevant to his life...to be honest. n/t

[struggle4progress]

53. Love has many faucets!

:D

[phleshdef]

6. Men cheat on headstrong women all the time. So yes, I think he does have a choice.

[Vanje]

52. Thats true

Men also cheat on Beautiful strong women.

[krabigirl]

55. maybe he has, and just hasn't gotten caught? Not that I care, but still.

[Uzybone]

7. +1. Everyone has weaknessess, but this is startlingly stupid

Weiner is no dummy, so why do something so dumb. Anyways, best of luck to him and his wife and I hope they make it out stronger. I also hope his career is not too adversely affected by his as he is a good guy.

[TheWraith]

8. Reminds me of what Wanda Sykes said about meeting the Obamas...

Paraphrasing, but in one of her stand up routines she joked that you could look at the two of them and tell "Yeah... they're fuckin'."

[CrispyQ]

10. That's the second funny thing I read today that she said.

~lol.

Here's the other one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1236544#1236706

Went to Netflix & added two of her DVD's to my queue.

[TheWraith]

12. I hope one of them is her special, "Ima be me."

Arguably her best... I think it was the first one after the 2008 election and her marrying her girlfriend, so she had a lot of stuff to work with for new material.

[Dokkie]

11. you wouldnt be saying that if you were a guy

Kick

[phleshdef]

15. Funny, last time I checked I am a guy. Though I can check again if theres any doubt.

[TheWraith]

16. ...

:rofl:

[Wait Wut]

22. Can you send that "proof" via Twitter?

Pinky swear I won't use it to destroy your career.

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. Now's not the time to ask you to post photographic proof, I guess

:hide:

[phleshdef]

25. I would, but I don't wanna cause someone to have to use their left/right scroll because of large pic

I keed. I keed.

[boppers]

27. Will you send a pic to prove it?

That seems to be all the rage...

[PassingFair]

51. Could you post a confirming pic? nt/

[AmBlue]

20. Is that because you ALL just know you're not trustworthy?

Sorta like a frat secret? *geesh* Between what you guys apparently must do because of your penises, and what you like to do with guns and artillery, it's just pretty darned depressing that these are the games we play while serious problems need grown-ups who know how to keep their eye on the ball-- and their dicks in their pants.

I defended Weiner in the presence of my 13yo son just 3 days ago. I was also a John Edwards supporter together with my children. I'm sick of defending jackasses that don't deserve defending. So pathetic.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. Barack Obama is a decent man

It's not hard to act right when behaving decently towards others has become second nature.

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[Enrique]

21. exactly

where does this faith come from? It's craziness imo.

You talk about personal friends, well personal friends can surprise you too. And politicians who you never met and never even heard of six years ago? Come on!

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[Maven]

26. Barack Obama is a perfect human

Hence every fallacy (get it?) of lesser men and women is simply a reminder of his infallibility.

[Arkana]

31. Um...please point out where someone said this.

Otherwise you're just strawmanning.

[Avant Guardian]

64. I can tell you where...

It was said in post #26

[phleshdef]

32. Yup. Really gets under your skin doesn't it?

[Beacool]

40. Thanks for the laugh...............

:7

[CakeGrrl]

29. It isn't a pedestal. It's a reasonable comparison to a current event (Weiner).

No one can know what goes on in ANYONE'S head, including a spouse.

It's natural to hypothesize and speculate. Otherwise, there'd hardly be any content on this forum, for example.

So given that, it's less about character for me than just being fucking smart in the face of seeing what the political consequences are of getting caught cheating. I'd just like anyone who's been caught to tell us what they were thinking - did they really think their tracks were covered or what?

[Number23]

28. Kickin and rec'ing. Not only because of the OP but because of the responses

that this post brought out from some very special DUers. :rofl: :spray: :rofl:

This thread is just full of win.

[Arkana]

30. I don't think it's in Obama's character.

[treestar]

33. When the worst his opponents could come up with was Ayers and Wright

I knew there were no skeletons in Obama's closet.

And he's crazy about his wife. Which is no wonder!

[Solomon]

46. That's what I thought too. They had to trott out Rev. Wright

because there were no other scandals to go after.

[fujiyama]

34. By all indications

he is a man of good character - a dedicated and loyal husband and committed father . But as another poster said, unless you're a personal friend - and I would argue even then, you never know what temptations people (both men and women) will succumb to.

Hopefully, Obama will continue to exhibit the characteristics and judgment that have made him successful till now. We all depend on that.

[donheld]

35. Have you seen his wife?

Anyone cheat on her doesn't deserve her. I know I'm a gay guy, but that doesn't mean I don't know the best woman in the land.

[Ter]

36. Have you seen Liz Hurley?

They don't get much hotter than her, and Hugh Grant cheated on her.

[CakeGrrl]

37. Interesting how it gets tied back to looks.

When Schwarzenegger 'fessed up and people saw recent pictures of his mistress, some of the comments were "she must have been hotter 10 or 12 years ago". She wasn't.

It's a frequent response whenever a high-profile guy with an attractive wife is caught going/looking elsewhere: "How could he do that?" Princess Diana, Elin Woods, Maria Shriver...

I think the idea that someone could be attracted to a person who's perceived to be less attractive than his/her partner makes people uncomfortable because then, what's the point of going to such lengths to stay young-looking or good-looking?

Then there's the theory that men are generally hard-wired to get with as many partners as possible, so it doesn't matter what a spouse does, they're thinking about sex elsewhere. Another uncomfortable thought that flies in the face of the idea that marriage makes the bond.

I'm sure mileage varies wildly, but apart from the perfunctory apologies, I'd like to hear someone explain why they did it, if they could be honest about it. I'm curious.

[Beacool]

42. Hear, hear!!!!!

For once we agree on something.

:applause:

[CakeGrrl]

56. Woo hoo!

It can happen.

:)

[Beacool]

41. Hyperbole much?

Besides, since when does the level of attractiveness of the wife have anything to do with a husband's infidelity. Your comment is sexist.

;(

[phleshdef]

47. LOL. You talk about hyperbole in on breathe then cry sexism with the other.

How ignorant. If we were talking about a woman and this same poster made the same comment about that woman's husband being attractive, would you also call that sexist?

Attractiveness plays a big role in people's relationships. Its definately not any kind of rule that attractive people don't get cheated on. But its also less likely that someone will cheat on a partner that they are very much into and physical attraction is a big part of people being into each other.

Thats not sexism. Thats fucking biology.

[Beacool]

61. You're very rude.

I have no further interest in continuing a conversation with you. Suffice it to say that many beautiful women have been cheated on and with other women who were less attractive than they are. Other posters gave you some examples.

[DCBob]

38. What about Larry Sinclair??

;)

[Beacool]

39. I wouldn't put my hands in the fire for ANY man.

You cannot possibly know what a person would do with any certainty. Besides, what does his marital fidelity have to do with governing the country? Bush was apparently a faithful husband and look at the mess he got us into. I don't expect politicians to be popes. I just hate the hypocrisy of those who point fingers and then act far worse than the people who they were pointing the finger at. Case in point was Clinton and several of his Republican accusers.

I don't care about the state of the Obamas' marriage. It's none of my business. Ditto for that of other politicians.

:shrug:

[phleshdef]

44. It doesn't matter whether YOU give a shit or not. It matters what the general electorate thinks.

And if a high office Democrat gets involved in a sex scandal, they get eaten alive for it. So it matters and it matters a lot. Whether you want it to matter is irrelevant.

[Syntheto]

43. Ahem....

...Would you care to go on record? I mean, come on... here's the problem, even if it was a total falsehood, it's all along the lines of, "...do you beat your wife anymore?" That's how the media operates... as far as having a sainted halo, Jack Kennedy ('Chickie Baby' to the Rat Pack) had two kids and a beautiful wife... years later, in the film 'Kennedy's women', friends quoted him as saying "... I get a migraine if I don't get a strange piece of ass every day" BHO is a politician, period, with the same foibles as anyone. This sort of 'oh, Saint Barack would never do anything like that because he is so gooood' is silly. Hopefully, people vote on bottomline policies rather than some unrealistic view of someone's theoretical morals.

[phleshdef]

45. As I said to others in this thread, it matters from a political perspective whether you want it to..

...or not. If a high level Democrat gets involved in a sex scandal, they get fried by the media and the electorate. Period. I'm glad I can feel like I don't have to worry about that happening to Obama. I'm glad I feel like I have a Democratic President who will keep himself clean in that regard. You may think its silly and you may be accurate. But thats also irrelevant. Whenever Clinton got caught up in his scandal, he was marginalized for it. He was never taken seriously for the remainder of his term. It was only later that he began to get some of his respect back.

This shit matters. You might not like it. But you liking it has nothing to do with its relevancy. Deal with it.

[BlueStater]

48. You can't say that for sure.

None of us know Barack Obama personally. He could be a great family man but there's an equal chance he could be a hound. I don't trust any politician when it comes to faithfulness.

[barbtries]

49. me too

but i thought weiner was way too smart to do what he did. :shrug:

i always thought that with clinton they knew it was his achilles heel and just waited for the chance to try and bring him down. but weiner? somehow it had quite escaped me that he was a ladies' man.

I don't think Obama's going to do anything stupid. even if other extremely intelligent men have.

[dionysus]

50. that, and i'm pretty sure michelle would kick his ass hard if he ever did.

[krabigirl]

54. Yeah, but it's perfectly fine for him to strip us of our civil liberties and continue three wars,

But hey, at least he doesn't do sex scandals!! thank the stars!! lol

[emilyg]

57. That's his fine character.

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[great white snark]

63. Wrong and wrong but at least you didn't say "start 3 wars."

That's a start lol

[Bonobo]

58. Yeah? Well sexual men are sexual.

If he chose Michelle cause she was hot, there is plenty of reason to believe that there is at least the possibility that he would and has already cheated on her.

Your opinion is just a baseless opinion.

On Edit: A man that is willing to use drones at 4x the rate that Bush did and is willing to kill innocent children deserves ZERO high marks for morality.

[HipChick]

60. Would Obama's campaign had survived a Jennifer Flowers type scandal?

absolutely not..due to his race

[RoadRage]

62. I agree - if only because I really think he fears his wife, and Michelle would KICK HIS ASS!

Seriously - I love that woman.. and she's not the kind of chick you screw around on. :)