I predict Sarah Palin will become President in 2012.

[Avalux]

How do you like that nightmare scenario? If we don't get our shit together and start supporting our President, she will be.

[MNDemNY]

1. That is an idiotic statement.

"start supporting our president" who the fuck are "we" bushies?

[Avalux]

5. Your statement is idiotic.

The hysteria over Obama after almost one year in office is ridiculous. Grow up.

[MNDemNY]

7. neener-neener??

:rofl:

[Avalux]

9. Oh what the hell.

:rofl:

[TheBigotBasher]

20. I think the poster is nearer to your view than you imagine.

A divided, poorly disciplined Party is a loser. This is a very serious wake up call to the Senate. If those Senators want their seats, get in lie. This is not the time to play to a Fox News audience.

[yourout]

2. You mean....If our President doesn't get his shit together and start supporting us....

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. +1000

[snagglepuss]

31. +1001

[Sebastian Doyle]

44. +100,000

[emilyg]

55. +100002

[LooseWilly]

57. I knew there was a reason I checked before posting this exact thing... +1764498

[Divine Discontent]

62. thx for saving me time!!!

[niyad]

73. +several million

[montanto]

79. Yes. That's it.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. I really don't think so.

She can't run a coherent campaign...

She quit her job as Governor...

She's an idiot, and any primary race will show that to be true.

It's the other Republicans that are more scary.

:hi:

[Telly Savalas]

83. You hit the nail on the head.

She's a terrible candidate for the GOP.

[name not needed]

4. And if that's the case I'll be moving to a country we don't have nuclear weapons aimed at.

[stevenleser]

12. That is definitely something that would have to be considered

particularly from someone who is entitled to EU citizenship if he wants it.

[TheBigotBasher]

6. Senators need to get this.

If they carry on doing whatever they want, without any Party discipline - they are out and so is Obama.

It has been a long time without power, but power needs to be held responsibly and you need to deliver the agenda you promised.

[racaulk]

8. GOBAMA!

Better?

:eyes:

[timeforpeace]

11. Dumb because she'll never run, but also because being primaried is his real concern.

[still_one]

13. No she won't, but that's a good tactic, instead of arguing the issues /nt

[Avalux]

16. It's as good a tactic as some of the hysteria going on here. n/t

[still_one]

22. People are upset. If you are an advocate of the current HCR, then present your points /nt

[Avalux]

24. I'm upset too.

I'm upset because the left is joining with Republicans in opposition to kill the bill. I'm not an advocate and I think it's mediocre at best. What I am is pragmatic - I realize if we don't pass this now, it will be Obama's and the Democratic Party's death knell and the Republicans will get their fanatical grip on this country again.

Pass the bill, then go from there. Shove it in the Republican's faces. DO IT.

[John Q. Citizen]

29. Lets pass a bill that makes the insurance companies richer. The current one does that so lets pass

it.

Yes, I see your point, but I diusagree with your premise.

I don't think passing a bill that will enrichen the insurance industry is a good idea. I don't think it's pragmatic.

[Avalux]

30. It can be changed once it's passed.

Medicare and SS were. The destruction that will occur from NOT passing it will be far worse than what I don't like about the bill.

[GreenArrow]

32. Who's going to change it?

The same people who passed it?

[John Q. Citizen]

39. Medicare covered virtually every senior within 9 months of passage. It wasn't changed after it

passed. It was augmented.

If the current bill is augmented then the insurance companies will be even richer. I think that's bad policy and a bad idea. I'm against that and I will vote those who try to pass it out of office.

Just watch.

[WyldRogue]

85. How can it be 'changed'

... if Democrats are possibly losing seats in 2010? As it stands, he had 58 Senators and one hell of an edge in the House but none of them fought the good fight for what is right. With a possible 'slimmer' majority outlook, how can they 'change' anything??


*We couldn't do shyt when we HAD absolute majority but we will be able to institute changes now that we will have a slimmer majority now* That is some fuzzy logic....

[still_one]

35. I understand, but consider this. Perhaps this emotion may actually cause a positive

response from both sides

There should be no doubt in Congress or the administration that some of the base is upset.

In other words, I think they got their attention

I also do not think they will be ignored

This could bring a better bill, and something to really work with.

I don't know if you caught it, but even if the current bill didn't cause such an emotional response, Ben Nelson threw his two cents in, and said he would not support it without and anti-abortion clause

I would almost guarantee that would be a no go at least my Senators in California

In other words, this is the process, it actually has a chance to make it better

If you are too emotionally drained then take a break from DU for a while, and correspond with you representative how you feel, whatever it is

After all that is what Democracy is


hang in there

[Forkboy]

14. I predict that when fear is your biggest selling point that you're in trouble.

[racaulk]

17. +1

[snagglepuss]

33. Well said nt

[timeforpeace]

43. Like when Obama says that if it doesn't pass, the nation will go bankrupt? Like that?

[avaistheone1]

48. Bingo.

[DavidDvorkin]

15. Nonsense

She's not even likely to win the Republican nomination. If she does, she'll be crushed in the general election.

Not to mention that, even if she did win the election due to massive fraud and intervention by aliens from another galaxy, she still wouldn't become President till 2013.

[depakid]

18. Someone like Romney might- but Palin would have less of a chance than Dole did in 1996

assuming Obama's the nominee- or even wants the job after 4 years of grief.

[rwheeler31]

19. I predict you are wrong about Palin but right on the

mark with the other advice.

[Gregorian]

21. So the Mayans knew about Sarah Palin? OMG!

:)

[NJmaverick]

23. You're correct and you will see they really don't care

egos are involved and that trumps bigger interests.

[Laelth]

25. Very unlikely.

Bill Clinton won in 1996. Bob Dole was better than Sarah Palin. This feels like 1993 to me.

:dem:

-Laelth

[Gregorian]

26. Seriously, one cannot be stupider than Bush, and get elected.

Please let that be the case. Dear god. No, I'm pretty confident about this.

[Avalux]

27. I never thought Bush would be elected and he wasn't.

He was put in office by corporations. Think they can't do it with Sarah?

[Gregorian]

42. NOOOOooooo. Don't say that. Even if it's true.

Now I'm no longer laughing. I'm in my closet, in the dark.

[GreenArrow]

37. Ronald Reagan was elected twice.

.

[Harry Monroe]

74. Don't count on it. You underestimate the complete stupidity of the American voting public

and the Fox News, media entertainment, reality show watching brain dead zombies out there. A nightmare scenario, but it could indeed happen. If it does, we are finished.

[OHdem10]

28. Using Sara Palin as a scare tactic does not work. She is not

going to be GOP candidate. Yes, she will be influential
in the Party and get to call a lot of shots but President
she will not.

[Yavin4]

34. If Obama Signs This Bill, He Will Do More To Get Sarah Palin Elected

than anyone here on DU. This bill will destroy the Democratic party as we know it. When single mothers working two jobs get that healthcare mandate letter in the mail, there will be hell to pay for the Democrats.

[blue_onyx]

36. I predict Palin won't even run for President in 2012

If Obama doesn't win a second term, it will be his fault.

[Bluenorthwest]

38. Fear-Pops!

Now in Democratic Blue!

[LooseWilly]

58. Get Your Fear-Pops, while they're COLD! 3 for $5!! Get Your Fear-Pops!!

[DCBob]

40. America deserves Sarah Palin..

after the way they are trashing our current President.

[spoony]

53. Posts like this and the OP reveal a very troubling trend of thought

It's pretty clear who on DU wants a Palin presidency, and it isn't the liberals angry with Obama.

[DCBob]

68. Actually whats "troubling" is that "liberals" do not see the damage they are doing...

which could result in something as horrific as Palin in the WH.

[mrs_p]

41. i think this is a weak

argument for going along with a crappy bill.

[Fire1]

45. No doubt cause "gettin our shit together" ain't in the cards. n/t

[paulk]

46. I doubt it

But if the President doesn't start supporting the people who voted for him

maybe...

[TheCowsCameHome]

47. Mars has a presidential race in 2012?

Huh. That's interesting.

[bigwillq]

49. Don't blame us.

Put the blame on where it belongs. The Congress and the President.

[Berry Cool]

50. Oh, bull. Palin will never be president, and trying to scare people into thinking

she's the inevitable alternative if we don't all sing from the "Obama is perfect" hymnbook is ridiculous.

(There are many reasons Palin will never be president, but the primary one is that she'll never be accepted by the Republican Party again as a candidate. She's too uncontrollable, and will not stay on the reservation and allow herself to be dictated to as GWB did. The RNC wants someone popular enough to be electable, but also pliant and controllable--which is something Palin will never be.)

[secondwind]

70. too many skeletons in her closet.......and for a nice price, Levi will sing like a bird

Of course, the RNC could offer him tons of cash to keep quiet!

[jgraz]

51. Why yes, our happy DU posts will convince millions to turn out and vote for another sellout.

That's your strategy? Seriously?

[spoony]

52. And if we didn't let Bush go into Iraq, Saddam would nuke us.

Fear-mongering is not an effective tool against people who spent 8 years trying to warn the country about it.

[burning rain]

54. Won't happen.

She's just plain crazy, unstable, and erratic. Republicans need to recover their former strength with suburbanites and college graduates--the easiest inroads for them to make--to have a shot at the White House, and on the contrary, she'll do worse with those demographics than McCain. If she's the GOP nominee in 2012, Obama gets re-elected, period, though if he and Dems are viewed very poorly, voters might send more Republicans to Congress at the same time to compensate.

[Faryn Balyncd]

56. Should read "If the president doesn't get his shit together and stop supporting corporate interests

....over Americans, she, or someone like her, will be."

[JVS]

59. Someone bring me my smelling salts!

[SOCALS]

60. I hope Hillary will run and win in 2012

[Forkboy]

61. Her and Obama are practically policy twins.

If you love one you should love the other. Unless it's really about personality and not issues.

[cornermouse]

64. The negative?

Hillary's policies were a lot like Obama's.

The positive?
I think Hillary is a lot stronger person than Obama.

That said, I think I would prefer someone new and given the way Congress has been behaving, I would prefer that person not be someone who's currently in Congress, part of the D.C. "in crowd".

[AllentownJake]

63. I think the mandated insurance bills will do that more than anything a few

angry liberals are saying on an internet message board.

[Username 12]

65. Thanks for the LAUGH!

It's gonna be hell today at work. I needed a chuckle!

[soapystern]

66. no sarah

sarah will be on tv

[era veteran]

67. Care to wager on that statement?

Of course I never, never, ever thought Ronnie Rayguns would be elected.

[asdjrocky]

69. You are not going to scare or bully my vote away.

GFY.

[asdjrocky]

71. So fear is all you have to sell?

What happened to the big shippment of HOPE that came in?

[TK421]

80. sank shortly after passing through the Straits of Change

[Harry Monroe]

72. If she does, I'm planning on killing myself

It will be a better alternative than the hell that awaits our country and the world if this idiot manages to become President. We will have no credibility left and this country will be finished as a viable nation.

[niyad]

75. do you want us to bow and scrape? supporting someone who is selling us out to the insurance

industry, who sold us out to wall street, who is selling us out to the military-industrial complex, isn't something I want to do. and using mooselini as the bogeyman doesn't cut it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

76. when the president supports me, i'll support him. i dont owe him my life

:eyes:

[southernyankeebelle]

77. Believe me friend I think that will never happen. As mad as hell am at Obama

unless there is another good democratic running I will vote for Obama. No way in hell will anyone thinking with a straight head would vote for a teabagger or a Palin. Lets face it. If you get a teabagger any safety net there is will be pulled. Any war will always be supported by the republicans teabaggers.

[LatteLibertine]

78. Possibly Romney

I don't see Palin ever having wide enough appeal for that.

If health care reform is a joke that sticks it to the average citizen the Democratic Party is in a lot of trouble.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

81. She may be president regardless of the president because the media is doing

a fantastic job helping her to position herself.

[racaulk]

82. I find it very telling that the OP has all but abandoned this thread.

Thanks for adding to the fear and discontent in this forum. :hi:

[Kaleva]

84. A PILF in 2012?

[Mudoria]

86. Palin is the only one who could make Dubya look like a genius...