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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:14 PM Original message |
"Obama declares end for tax breaks for wealthiest Americans as debt deal finally passes Senate" |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'll believe it when I actually see it happens and not one second sooner. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. +1, Agreed & Well Said! |
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alpha9161 (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. couldnt of said it better myself nt |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Same here n/t |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. +100 |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Same here. |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
121. However if there is an crazy rumor that puts Obama in a bad light then you and a bunch of others |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
148. Yup. I wouldn't bet the farm on it ever happening. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Declarations don't pass laws, and the second analysis is just totally false. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Remind us why the bush tax cuts will be extended again? n/t |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Because Obama doesn't want to raise taxes on the middle class. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. All Bush tax cuts sunset at the end of 2012. Extending them is not possible within this framework. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. And they're NOT going to be extending them "within this framework." |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You're dreaming. President Obama will not undermine his strategic advantage in such a way. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. So you don't think any of the Bush tax cuts will be extended? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Affirmative. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. So, you think it is only possible for Congress to extend the Bush tax cuts through the committee? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. See Reply #24. My OP speaks for itself and I've already replied to you in explanation enough times. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. So, you have no response. Okay. n/t |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Read my OP over. Slowly. Then read my replies (especially Reply #24) to you over. Slowly. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Again: do you think Congress can only extend the Bush tax cuts via the Joint Committee? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. What's your point? The Congress can also fund the closing of Gitmo, but it won't. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Thanks. That's responsive. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Reread reply #28 wherein I replied to another version of the question you just asked. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. The tax cuts expire (and will be extended) before the 2012 elections take effect. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Pres. Obama & Harry Reid have made it clear that won't be happening. Other Dems won't do it, either. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
84. They made the same promises before. They broke them |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Apples and oranges. There will be no more UI extensions to worry about in 2012. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #87 |
136. So the hostage changes. Doesn't change that they'll extend the cuts to save the new one. nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Yawn. 100% purely speculative claims are, by their very nature, irrelevant nonsense. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #138 |
143. So your claims are nonsense? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. My OP speaks for itself and I've already replied to you in explanation enough times. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Because Obama has shown himself to be such an effective |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Yes, he is, in insane times. Why do you think Boehner lied about the deal in order to sell it? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. Were you unconscious the last two weeks? (nt) |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. No. Were you? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. You must have been. Because everyone other than you learned that taking a hostage |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. You must have been. Because everyone other than you learned that Boehner lied to his caucus... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Focus. We're talking about the Bush tax cuts and their inevitable extension during |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Focus. Read Reply #52. I'm talking about facts and am not interested in baseless speculation. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Actually, no you're not talking about facts. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. The OP is full of facts. You just won't acknowledge them, which is not my problem. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #88 |
135. You're still avoiding the question. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Reread Reply #52. Lather, rinse, repeat. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #139 |
142. More like "Oh crap! I've got nothing! I'll go point to the same, wrong post!" (nt) |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #142 |
146. My OP speaks for itself. What do you have besides empty bilious insults against the President? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. Obama declares a lot of things n/t |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. He declares progressive bashers are wrong a lot...in his next speach |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. Good stuff. POTUS has the vision for the long game |
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alpha9161 (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Sorry but his rhetoric doesn't match his actions nt |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. We all have our opinions. Time will tell. -nt |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Unfortunately time is not on our side. NT |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. That's a keeper. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. The contents of the deal are known. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. Because there is no such thing as history. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Prove it. List all the "constant" instances he has done so, backed up by credible sources. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. K |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
94. Um, that's empty rhetoric. lol! Where are the credible sources which back up your claims? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #94 |
137. You need a source to prove card check didn't pass? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. I want a credible source to prove your contention it was ALL President Obama's fault. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #140 |
144. That's not even close to what I am arguing. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Your vitriolic opinions are baseless. Unlike my OP, you offer only empty fact-free rhetoric. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. ++++++ |
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John Agar (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. Words are easy. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. Words do not equal actions. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Bully pulpit!! Bully pulpit!! Bully pulpit!! Bully pulpit!! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
106. Use of the bully pulpit has to be followed with ACTION - obviously... |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
141. Obama didn't have to use the Bully Pulpit to let the Bush tax cuts expire |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bravo President Obama. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. One liners by activists ain't gonna help us get where we need to get to....... |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. that's not a very nice thing to say about Obama nt |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Nice one liner! |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. It's hard to be frightened of republicans |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. When the house is held by a majority that don't and won't bring up a jobs bill...... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. We need to be fighting both Republicans and wimpy DINOS who are too afraid |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. Constant capitulation isn't gonna get you anywhere either. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. FUCK FACTS!!!! /sarcasm |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
20. All talk. n/t |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. And this time he means it!!111!!! It's HUGH!111!!!!11!! |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. Well, Clark is fond of saying Prove It! so much, so |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. Bravo President Obama. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. Obama is not a dictator. He cannot just "declare an end for tax breaks for wealthiest Americans." |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. Please reread the OP and the WH Fact Sheet on the debt deal therein. The devil is in the details. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. No, I understand it just fine. But there is nothing to prevent Congress |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. See Reply #52. |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
49. I'm hoping either this Super Committee agrees to revenue increases (doubtful) |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
50. Sounds familiar -- "It's deja vu all over again" |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. It is a shame that proven Liberal Senate Dems are taking heat over this |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I do agree with that -- But it sucks they were forced into that position |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. It will blow over, just like the "heat" over HCR, once people learn what it's really about. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Hope you are right |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Who are you referring to, exactly? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. People like |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. You really think Kerry, Franken and Giffords will be "primaried" based on social network chatter? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. No, |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. So what? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Ok |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Many Democrats faced similar or more outrage over the votes for HCR. Were you concerned then? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Yep. I was. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. How many Democratic incumbents lost their seats over their "aye" votes for HCR in 2010? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Quite a few did, one of them was a blue dog in my state, |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Do you have evidence for your claim? I didn't hear about it. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Actually two of them voted no, but one lost to a Teabagger |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. BTW, Gallup says President Obama hasn't lost any liberal or Dem support despite this debt deal fight |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Ok. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Oy vay. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Ain't going nowhere |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Oh, that's good. Me too. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Thank you |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Somebody can't do math. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Someone can't back up their empty rhetoric. And tell me how a "Stimulus or a Jobs bill" will pass... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. Because teabaggers are a minority in the house. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Not in influence. You still haven't told me how you'd get a bill passed through the Teabagger House. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. LMAO |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
75. He sure becomes tough and direct when it no longer matters. n/t |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
90. He's always been tough & direct but some want a thug. What's "it"? Why does "it no longer matter"? |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
91. Fool me once,... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. UI extensions won't be in the mix this time while this debt deal is a done deal. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. The Bush tax cuts expired once already during his term. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. See Reply #52. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. They'll find something else to hold hostage. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Under the framework of the supercommittee, that's not possible. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. The supercomitte reports in November |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. You're wrong. I just explained how one has to do with the other. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. You're mistaken. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. You moved the goalpost in mid-discussion again. And you ignored Reply #52, didn't you? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. I read it. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. That's incorrect. There was an excess of political will on the part of Democrats to avoid a default. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Don't act like the only options were cave or go into default. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Don't act like President Obama didn't stand firm. He protected SS/Medicare benefits from all cuts. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. He's the one who put them on the table |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Wrong. He NEVER put SS/Medicare benefits on the table, but those who made shit up pretended he did. |
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Dad Infinitum (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #125 |
133. "In debt talks, Obama offers Social Security cuts" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. NOT to benefits. The only thing affected by the trigger would be cuts to SS/Medicare PROVIDERS. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
93. LOLOL |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. HOW? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. yup that's probably what Obama asked |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. You didn't answer my question. You said, "HE COULD HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS". I asked, "HOW"? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
108. K&R. Yup. He WILL keep his promise. n/t |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
116. Two days late and a trillion dollars short. |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. It's a case of premature declaration |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #118 |
127. That false meme again? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. August 02, 2011: US Wants Immunity Deal if Troops Remain in Iraq |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Quote where it says that President Obama is still at war against Iraq. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. He's negotiating for troops to stay in Iraq so they can plant dates. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. No, the Pentagon is waiting for the Iraqis to decide WTF they want. They're dithering as usual. |
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lonestarlib (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
126. Talk is cheap. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. You read the actual bill, eh? How many pages is it, by the way? You must be an uber speed reader. |
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budkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
149. I'll bump this thread when he extends the tax cuts again |
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