96 percent coverage is universal health care

[ProSense]

BENNINGTON, Vt., May 11— Gov. Howard Dean, the only Governor who is a doctor, signed a law here today that sets in motion a plan to give Vermont universal health care by 1995.

link

The article is from 1992. Nearly 15 years later (2007), Vermont still has 9.1 percent uninsured. That's 5 percent more than the projections for the current bill.

Census Bureau reports that Massachusetts had the lowest 2008 rates of uninsured, while Texas had the highest.

[IndianaGreen]

and ignorance is strength

And Big Brother will raise the chocolate rations to twenty grams.

[ProSense]

4. And you're really strong.

:rofl:

[Jack_Dawson]

1. So...what's your point?

Break it down for me fellas. :beer:

[ProSense]

2. Read the OP again.

Do I need another point?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

3. Yeah, I can see that

Our definition of full employment is 4% unemployment, which is 96% employment.

I wouldn't expect a governmental definition of full coverage to be 100%. Is the right number 96%, 98%... I don't know.

[Jamastiene]

5. Domo arigato, Mrs. Roboto

We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.v

[ProSense]

6. I bet

you thought that was clever.

Nope.

[slipslidingaway]

7. This must be the follow on thread from your original ...

"There are some people who just don't want it to be Obama
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 12:11 AM by ProSense
They are desperately fighting to prevent Obama from being the first President to enact universal health care."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=73268&mesg_id=73268

[ProSense]

10. Thanks.

I'd forgotten what I posted.

[slipslidingaway]

13. Just connecting the threads and highlighting a common tactic :) n/t

[ProSense]

16. I would say you're paying too much attention to me,

but your point is a stretch.

[slipslidingaway]

22. Perhaps you use the same tactic enough that it really does not take ...

much attention to see what is being done.

:shrug:

[itsrobert]

8. And how many people are in Vermont for not being able to afford mandated health care coverage?

???

[ProSense]

11. I give up.

How many of the 9 percent?

[grahamhgreen]

9. The goal is Medicare for ALL.

[Hekate]

14. How many uninsured remain in Canada? France? Have they managed 100%?

... or have some people even in those countries managed to slip through the cracks?

"The goal is Medicare for ALL" is a nice slogan and a nice goal, but in fact 100% is unattainable.

Have a look at this 2005 report from Toronto. http://www.arts.yorku.ca/soci/goldring/clippings/caring_for_the_uninsured.pdf

Hekate

[boppers]

12. How many homeless, jobless, undocumented, folks have insurance?

Numbers are funny things.

[Hekate]

15. Such folks are a problem in Canada, too. See this report from Toronto...

http://www.arts.yorku.ca/soci/goldring/clippings/caring_for_the_uninsured.pdf

[jillan]

17. Do you really call mandating the uninsured to buy healthcare w/o a choice, Universal Healthcare?

Because I don't - I call it a huge giveaway to the insurance companies.

No mandate without a choice!

[ProSense]

18. Mandates are a part of all universal plans

It's a fact.

[Armstead]

21. IF THEY ARE Part of a public health coverage program..

What part of that do you not understand?

[jeanpalmer]

19. The percentage of people insured is not

the appropriate standard to measure by if all those insured folks are paying exorbitant prices (exorbitant by upwards of 50% more costly than a reasonably priced plan employed in other countries) for health care, as they will do under all of the bills being considered. .

[Armstead]

20. To Quote President Obama....Mandating insurance is like trying to solve homelessness by ...

forcing people to buy a home.

[Sebastian Doyle]

24. I think Barack needs to watch some of his old speeches again

That one could be a good place to start. Then the one where he said he wouldn't sign any bill without a public option. And the "dumb wars" speech from 2002 probably wouldn't hurt either.

[HughMoran]

23. Yes. Just like 5% unemplyment is considered "full employment"

People are still free not to participate in the system.