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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:27 PM Original message |
The Republicans essentially suckered Obama into tanking the economy |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. That about sums it up. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. +1 default would not have improved investment or trust in US markets nt |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. imagine what "standing firm" would look like! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. The country would not have defaulted. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "The republicans wouldn't have let it happen." |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. The 14th Amendment would help. Oh, and you have to fight bullies, not appease them. nt |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Right because those 5 GOP SCOTUS judges would have sided with Obama using the |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Doesn't matter at that point. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. The Supremes Would Have Overruled Him Within the Hour, and the House Would Have Impeached Him |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yes |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Um |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. They would have voted for a clean bill in the end. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. How do you know that? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I know. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Hmmmm? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. They could try to spin their way out of it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Oh |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I suspect that you are right. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. More to the point |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. Damn Straight |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. From my point of view I get the feeling the tea bagged republicans are deliberately |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. Btw, in case your freaked out some of that was just SA at work. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. weak argument |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Well, |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. wait |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Hmmm? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. um... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. How about actually looking ahead and standing firm last December? |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. Yep...You Hit It On The Head |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. For the 1000tth time, they would have chickened out!! We are gullible! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Again |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. Surely BHO is to smart and shrewd to have been suckered in such manner: any 10th-grader |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Oh!! He's playing CHESS again. Jedi Mind trick chess, WHILE THEY'RE PLAYING TREASURY ROBBERS. nt |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. Republicans could not lose in that default would have |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. My, my, how little times have changed. (nt) |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. No. Thank God the tea party took the bait. n/t |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
29. Obama = FDR |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. This may very well resemble 1937, but |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. The Republicans suckered you into attacking Barack Obama and Dems.... |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Perfect response. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
33. NO NO NO! thats where you're wrong Obama knew exactly what he was doing,he approves ... |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'm enraged with Obama |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. First of all, |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. The DJIA is not the economy |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. That's why I'm saying everybody needs to calm down. |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
39. If you're talking about today's market, allow me to explain |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. You don't think future earnings guidance from US companies |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Thanks for the insider observations |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. I don't think many pols are fooled by the "cuts" in the package |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. It was actually a lie he told them to get the votes. n/t |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Exactly. Which is why the TP is still so pissed (nt) |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I'm under the impression they still don't know. They don't read |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. The thought of Speaker Cantor fills me with existential dread |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You GOT it!! LOL!! This shit is a tragic comedy, |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
52. NO KIDDING |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Really? Preserving Pell Grants & protecting SS/Medicare benefits from cuts = "THEIR POLICIES"? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
53. Yeah, that's why Boehner lied about the deal in order to sell it to his caucus before the vote. |
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alpha9161 (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
55. I agree K&R |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. BS He knew exactly what he was doing! |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
60. How odd, here I thought we were still dealing with the the same economic |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
61. It is called belt tightening for a reason n/t |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
62. I dont think he had a choice.. the alternative would have been even worse. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
64. Wouldn't have taken a genius to see it was coming & refuse to help them. Just a leader. |
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