Pew Poll: "71% of Americans think the President stands up for what he believes in"

[ClarkUSA]

A recent Pew poll carried some interesting results under a very negative headline. It turns out that 71% of Americans think the President stands up for what he believes in and 63% think he cares about people like them. 59% think he's trustworthy and 71% think he's warm and friendly. These are great numbers, semi-hidden behind the negative slant of the article which is focused on a drop in "approval", "strong leader", and "able to get things done". Of course there's a good reason for fewer people to believe the President can get things done after the last 8 months of GOP obstruction in the House and the continuing weakness of Senate Democrats, but when the election comes around, the President who got Bin Ladin will remind the voters that he did in 2 years what Bush couldn't do in 7 years. It's also up to the President's team to find ways to do things by executive action in the next year or so - and they appear to be doing exactly that. It is worth noting the extreme disconnect between the public perception of the President as someone who stands up for what he believes in and the ongoing campaign to portray the President as weak and unprincipled by people who claim to be Democrats and supporters - just ones who, they insist, are perceptive enough and brave enough to be critical. Somehow their perceptive and brave criticism lines up with what the corporate media and the Republican PR machine says but not with what the vast majority of the public thinks. Interesting.

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/09/obamas-public-positioning.html

[pnorman]

1. K&R!

n/t

[Xipe Totec]

2. No one can argue with that statement

That's why we should examine, carefully, those things that President Obama has taken a stand on.

And, also, those things in which he has not taken a stand.

[woo me with science]

9. +100000 His priorities are very clear. nt

[emulatorloo]

3. Thanks for posting this. Very Interesting. n/t

[ProSense]

4. Damn,

dragged down by Republicans again.



Wow, look at those Democratic numbers. The Independent numbers are also impressive.

[LiberalFighter]

17. Republicans need to take the hit on why nothing gets done in Congress.

[Tarheel_Dem]

5. Ssshhhh, don't tell DU.

Oooops. Too late. ;)

[Dokkie]

6. Wewt!!!

So we should be expecting him to receive at least 63% + of the total votes come Nov 4th

[scheming daemons]

7. 29% of population posts on DU

[woo me with science]

8. He absolutely stands up for what he believes in.

That is why he put 650 billion dollars of cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security on the table in the budget talks, while allowing continued tax cuts for billionaires.

That is why he has increased the Pentagon budget and expanded war to new countries.

That is why he sends attorneys to the Supreme Court to increase the FBI's ability to surveil Americans without their knowledge.

He is a very consistent Third Way, Hamiltonian Democrat.

[tblue]

18. So if he doesn't stand up for something....

that means he doesn't believe in it. Egad, that's depressing.

[Logical]

10. So did George Bush!

[Number23]

11. Hell yes LOL That bolded bit SAYS IT ALL

Somehow their perceptive and brave criticism lines up with what the corporate media and the Republican PR machine says but not with what the vast majority of the public thinks.

You're on a roll today, Clark! :loveya:

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[ClarkUSA]

20. I thought so, too.

:hi:

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[BklnDem75]

13. Weak sauce

No sane repuke is gonna touch the subject of Bin Laden, especially with a weak argument like that. :rofl:

[grahamhgreen]

15. Begs the question - what do they believe he believe in?

[yurbud]

19. It's funny how often polls sidestep obvious questions like that

[boppers]

59. It does not beg the question.

http://begthequestion.info/
HTH,
-Your friendly local language Nazi.

[JoeyT]

16. I'd agree with them.

There's no way he's going to back down on free trade, no matter how many jobs it will send out of the country in the long run.

[Tiggeroshii]

21. Now the superpacs are going to do everything they can to get these down.

And I fear they will be mighty successful at it... =\

[Exilednight]

22. Yay, another poll that shows the general public chooses to remain ignorant. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

23. On the contrary, this poll proves the general public is more perceptive than 24/7 Obama bashers.

[Exilednight]

24. Alright, back up your claim. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

25. You first.

[Exilednight]

26. Nah, I'm a gentlemen, I insist, ladies first. So, after you mam. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

27. Who said I was a "mam"? You made an unsupported claim, now prove it. The bolded statement is clear.

"It is worth noting the extreme disconnect between the public perception of the President as someone who stands up for what he believes in and the ongoing campaign to portray the President as weak and unprincipled by people who claim to be Democrats and supporters - just ones who, they insist, are perceptive enough and brave enough to be critical. Somehow their perceptive and brave criticism lines up with what the corporate media and the Republican PR machine says but not with what the vast majority of the public thinks."

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[ClarkUSA]

30. Prove that I am a "Miss". Unlike you, I backed up what I said via the Pew Poll.

[Exilednight]

31. You used an OPINION poll, no facts. Prove that people are "more perceptive" with facts, not

OPINION. You proved nothing more than people have opinions, which are like assholes, everyone has one. Not having an opinion is an opinion. Now show me some facts.

[ClarkUSA]

32. LOL! While you made a comment completely unsupported by anyone's opinion except your own.

I'll go by Pew poll over you any day.

[Exilednight]

34. Still waiting for facts, not opinion. Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

36. You're rejecting the results of the Pew poll? LOL! Where are your facts?

[Exilednight]

41. You refuted my claim and countered with one of your own, so back up your belief with facts and not

OPINION polls.

[ClarkUSA]

46. Where's the proof for your "the poll shows the general public chooses to remain ignorant" claim?

You have nothing but empty elitist rhetoric.

[frazzled]

39. Except for the polls that reflect your views

Right?

Besides, it doesn't really matter does it? If nearly 3/4 of the people in the US (not just Democrats, but Republicans and Independents counted in too), think the guy stands up for what he believes in, and an equal number think he's nice, it doesn't really matter that some EPA rule got delayed, or that you do not think he stands up for what he believes in. They fact that people like him and you don't is really just a matter of opinion. This is different than when a huge percentage of Americans believed that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. That was factually wrong. This is a poll about perceptions. You'll just have to live with the fact that a majority of Americans don't share your perceptions.

[RetroLounge]

29. Yup, he believes in Reagan

'nuff said.

RL

[ClarkUSA]

33. Prove it. Quote?

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[ClarkUSA]

37. So you have no proof, either? Figures.

[COLGATE4]

38. "Nobody ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the

American public". H. L. Mencken. True then - true now.

[ClarkUSA]

40. I'm glad Pres. Obama doesn't feel that way. I feel sorry for the malcontent elitist snobs who do.

[FlaGranny]

43. Not only

did I vote for Obama, I contributed a good chunk out of my Social Security check every month to his campaign. I like Obama. I really do like him. I was thrilled by his victory. I recorded the celebrations that took place all over the country and world and I watched them over and over again and I was proud I was American. I have seen quite a few presidents come and go. The first one I remember is Truman. I can honestly say I have never been so disappointed in a Democratic president as I am this one. I would have no issues with him if he fought for us and lost, but he capitulates on important issues and then starts his negotiations from his point of capitulation. He is a lousy negotiator. He has stunned me on numerous occasions. Either he's a lousy negotiator or he is way to the right of old-time Republicans like Eisenhauer and even Nixon on social and economic issues.

I would be very interested in what a poll would show about how much people really know about Obama's policies - those stated, and those actually acted upon. I think you would find a real gap there. My informed Democratic friends are all dismayed by the way things are going. The large number of Democrats showing support in that poll can't be very well informed. Most of them listen to the nightly news and maybe glance at a few newspaper headlines.

I can't imagine what it would take for you to lose your faith in this president and I'd certainly hate to see the country come to that point. I gave up a long time ago on the idea that he was some kind of master chess player. He had a chance to be great. He chose to be an appeaser.

[Fearless]

42. Then he isn't an idiot, he is a Republican.

[NorthCarolina]

44. Right wing ideology? I never had a question in my mind

that he stands up for what he believes in. Unfortunately, what he believes in is not reflective of his lofty campaign rhetoric, nor is it what I voted for....or at least what I thought I was voting for. Won't make that mistake twice though.

[cstanleytech]

57. "Won't make that mistake twice though." I agree, like most of us you will just make new ones.

[mikekohr]

45. Kick and Rec!

we need more of these posts or we will be wailing about President Rick Perry, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell as well as boo-hoo Boehner in a little over a year.

[Phx_Dem]

47. And who is driving the campaign to identify the POTUS as weak? Progressives.

[Skittles]

48. it's what he believes in that is the problem

[ClarkUSA]

49. Prove it.

[Skittles]

51. HE is proving it

to ANY THINKING PROGRESSIVE

[ClarkUSA]

52. So you have nothing but empty rhetoric while a large majority of liberals approve of Pres. Obama.

This is for you (the part in italics, especially):

So That Ignorance Won't Be The Reason Why "Progressives" Are Throwing The President Under The Bus:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x762403

Be sure to watch the videos by Rachel Maddow which refute your baseless claims about President Obama. :)

[MissDeeds]

50. +1000000

What he believes in doesn't fit with Democratic ideals, values and policies.

[ClarkUSA]

53. LOL! More bilious drive-by one-liner nonsense rhetoric?

:nopity:

This is for you, too (the part in italics, especially). Be sure to watch the videos by Rachel Maddow where she lays waste to your false claims about President Obama.:

"So That Ignorance Won't Be The Reason Why "Progressives" Are Throwing The President Under The Bus":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x762403

[zalinda]

54. The numbers are going down, not up. n/t

[ejbr]

55. And the American public is so perceptive

Bush approval rating 86%

[cstanleytech]

56. I have a question for those here who consider themselves part of that 71%

How do you strike the balance with standing up for what you believe with exercising your responsibility to also find the balance with a congress that is the one that has to vote to pass the laws? After all as president under our constitution you cant force them to vote as you want nor can you disband them and just pass whatever laws you wish.

[John Agar]

58. I'm with that 71%.

But I don't find myself agreeing with him much these days.

EPA was just the latest example. I think he believes that what he decided is right.

Problem is, I believe he is wrong about that.