Bill Clinton, with a Democratic House and Senate for two years, couldn't pass HC Reform

[notGaryOldman]

Obama did.

I definitely agree with those long-timers here who say the President needs to be a lot more aggressive with the GOP. But I think it's also important to remember that he does have some accomplishments under his belt.

[ClarkUSA]

1. Thanks for the reality check.

[Turbineguy]

2. But then the repubs

had not yet discovered how much fun it is the destroy the U.S.

[Skink]

3. Obama got some good regulation through but there wasn't much reform.

[DURHAM D]

4. Yep - and you can thank Democratic Senators for that.

Also, the thing (not reform at all) that Obama got passed was originally written for Senator Dole by the Heritage Foundation in opposition to the plan Hillary was developing.

Did you really want to bring this up?

[Sherman A1]

5. Kinda puts it into perspective.....

:toast:

[TheWraith]

6. Too bad that what you said is actually not true.

It's a complete myth, akin to Tim Geithner working for Goldman Sachs.

[girl gone mad]

7. It's actually completely true.

And Geithner has worked for Goldman Sachs, whether or not he was on their payroll.

[boppers]

22. Ooh, is it time to play "degrees of separation" again?

I'll go first:
DoD = 1
CIA = 1
NSA = 1
Monsanto = 1
Leonard Peltier = 1
Starhawk = 1
Anonymous = 0

[Life Long Dem]

25. Your confusing Henry Paulson for Geithner.

Henry Paulson is a former CEO for Goldman Sachs. Geithner never worked for Goldman Sachs.

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. What does this statement do to the meme that President Obama can't accomplish anything without

a Mega-Majority in the Senate?

[jeff47]

15. Just illustrates the cognitive dissonance. (nt)

[uponit7771]

20. It's the senate, not congress at the time was the problem...abuse of the filibuster rule

[Number23]

9. Love the folks working hard to miss your point

Rec'd

[notGaryOldman]

10. Amusing, isn't it?

Thank you. (And ClarkUSA.) ;-)

[Historic NY]

11. With a second term & a Democratic congress he can make the necessary changes...

remember Ted Kennedy's dilemma & regret with Nixon

[Beacool]

12. 1994 was not 2010. A little historical perspective might help.

Besides, what people were clamoring for were JOBS. The WH was tone deaf and it cost them the House.

;-)

[joshcryer]

13. A failure to GOTV does not equate a vote protest.

You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. People just didn't care as much.

[jeff47]

14. Yes, Obama passed the Republican plan from 1994.

Yay?

Maybe he can think about a health care reform program instead of a health insurance reform program.

[progressoid]

27. Plus a little of the Nixon plan from 72 too.

:woohoo:

[Honeycombe8]

16. Yes, he does. Let's not forget that Hillary's healthcare reform bill was stupid!

God almighty, it was so bad that it was hard to believe she actually thought it would fly!

It was basically forcing all employers in the U.S. to provide certain levels of insurance. Like, really...she thought that would pass. Ludicrous. That's the part I remember...if it had a part to address those who were unemployed, I don't recall that.

[karynnj]

26. I don't remember the details, but not ONE Senator on the Finance committee agreed to Hillary's plan

- and Bill Bradley was a senior Senator on that committee then and he was more liberal than she was.

[jeff47]

28. That bill was so stupid because of naivete.

They started with a plan, and then let anyone who wanted to be "a cook in the kitchen" propose changes. Resulted in a confusing mess because they tried to please such a diverse group of interests. And they didn't realize people were going to propose absolutely unworkable things in order to kill the entire project.

[iamthebandfanman]

17. he passed the republicans version

of health care reform that they wanted in 94.

yeah, hellava accomplishment.


on a side note, its been interesting watching republicans attack their own idea.

[ibegurpard]

18. you mean the health insurance industry protection act?

we didn't get healthcare reform...the health insurance industry got taxpayer funded and government mandated customers

[TheKentuckian]

19. He could have passed a similar bill but thankfully had enough sense not to take the bait

[Skittles]

21. "healthcare reform"

LOL, give me a break

:rofl:

[Autumn]

23. Insurance Finance Reform was what Obama passed.

Even Obama called it that.

[Bake]

24. Reform? What reform?

I **have** health insurance and I still can't afford to go to the doctor to get the prescriptions I need TO LIVE. You try it with a $2,600 deductible ...

Reform, my ass. We needed the public option, but that was off the table before it was ever even on the table.

Bake

[Jakes Progress]

29. He means the Insurance Corporation Windfall Profits Act.

[Bake]

30. Oh. THAT one.

Got it. For all the good it does me ...

Bake