Crap, that didn't sound very encouraging; Tweety just asked Robert Gibbs if

[teddy51]

President Obama is Liberal or a Conservative to which he couldn't answer. Yikes.

[boston bean]

1. LOL. I can't wait for the video! if what you say is a true representation.. nt

[Divine Discontent]

Gibbs said he didn't believe Obama thinks in terms of labels, to be exact.

Also, to be direct, it got kinda testy between Matthews and Gibbs, as Gibbs called Chris's question about President Obama, "crazy", and that upset Chris who said to close the segment to a head-shaking Gibbs, "you do a disservice when you call my comments crazy when many Americans want to know what this president really stands for". (to paraphrase)



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[teddy51]

11. I don't think it's a label to say that I am a Liberal, cause it means I am in no

way a Conservative. I don't know, just my take on it.

[Divine Discontent]

14. yeah, I just think it's a political move by Gibbs to not say what he really knows, and he didn't

like such a direct question. Tough. I think, could be very wrong, Pres. Obama is a liberal, but believes in the absolute belief that compromise, even with a super stubborn 'enemy', is a good thing if things get done... I don't really like that approach, but of course, support him over the rethugs, but I prefer him to display some of that primary-era wording...


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[Arkana]

33. He doesn't think in terms of labels--it's part of what drives the left crazy.

In Audacity of Hope, the first chapter is him saying that he doesn't think in terms of political labels.

[paulk]

37. it's only the left?

that refusing to define his political beliefs "drives crazy"?

[villager]

2. He didn't ask for a "third way" choice, eh?

n/t

[teddy51]

4. Nope, just whether he was a Liberal or Conservatve...n/t

[villager]

10. well, third way-ism just means you're a conservative willing to give occasional liberal lip service

n/t

[Mnpaul]

13. Well said

You nailed it

[hlthe2b]

3. Well that was contentious... Tweety went into commercial mumbling

and grumbling visibly. Gibbs basically accused him of foisting "crazy" ideas...

[Divine Discontent]

20. yes, very! I'm sure neither Chris, or Robert expected that to turn so contentious.

I didn't like Gibbs' answer, but there's rarely been a time I have liked his answers!


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[Supersedeas]

29. in Tweety's little mind, the shiny little thing in the room is the ONLY thing to talk about

He gets so upset when folks want to talk about something other than his meaningless labels.

[Cali_Democrat]

5. He can't say he's a liberal because the Administration fears being called socialists by the GOP

He can't say he's a conservative because they don't want to alienate liberals.

That's why you have to see the Administration's actions and see where Obama stands on the actual issues.

[teddy51]

7. Maybe, but he ran under a Liberal flag so he should at least have pretended if nothing else. n/t

[Booster]

8. Then I'd say he's a conservative Dem.

[vaberella]

18. Conservative Dems don't support the repeal of DOMA---while Obama is pushing for it.

They don't really care much about immigration reform either. So I'm not really sure your statement has much depth.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. Pushing for it is a bit of a stretch, they recently stopped defending

it, but they are not pushing repeal in any active way. At least they are no longer promoting and defending it with all manner of disgusting allusions but to say he himself is pushing for repeal is hyperbole plain and simple.

[vaberella]

17. You need to see the program for yourself.

Your answer doesn't seem like the answer of someone who saw the program. Secondly---uh Obama has been called a socialist when he was running for a primary against Clinton. So I'm not sure if "fear" qualifies or even makes sense. At which point your argument just comes across nonsensical. Funny on most issues Obama does come across as the Liberal more so than the Conservative.

[Cali_Democrat]

21. What did Gibbs say when Tweety asked him if Obama is liberal or conservative?

[vaberella]

27. Post #26 sums up. n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

23. Also, you just said Obama comes across as liberal more so than conservative

If this is true, why didn't Gibbs say this?

You like to directly respond to me quite often, but you always seem to tuck your tail and run when challenged.

[vaberella]

26. Does he have too?

If I were in Gibbs position, I would say Obama's record says exactly where he stands. I think on issues no one person is completely liberal and vice versa. And I think as President you have to maintain said philosophy. This is why I consider myself an Independent and not either Repub or Dem---because I agree with both depending on the issue. I don't see why Gibbs' response is so problematic--and the use of "fear" that you used in one post to describe the admin. The Admin had a label before they were even an admin. I don't think they even have to answer these questions.

As for your last sentence. I don't think I "tuck my tail and run" I'm not a dog or a cat or some animal that shivers when someone comments. You're not much of a challenge further more. Normally when I don't respond--I remember who I'm speaking too and realize I will end up in a ridiculously circular conversation (I tend to forget how these things go on this board when a topic of interest is posted---I don't normally check names when I respond---I just respond to a comment)---which is what normally happens and I then ignore your further comments because it goes back to square one. And a a last statement---you act as though I stalk your comments or something. Let me put your mind at rest---I'm sure there about 15 posters who would say the same from people like Prosense, jenmito, Babylonsister, and so on. You are not special in any way shape or form. I haunt GDP and I tend to respond to a lot of people. You can step down from the pedestal you put yourself on.

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[OwnedByFerrets]

38. The problem with that is the same as its always been...

no matter WHAT he says, the reich is going to call him names. Im so sick of him trying to appease them. It will NEVER happen. All they want to do is destroy him....evidently he cant handle that truth. If you are a liberal, then dammit, say it. Be proud of it. I am.

[Enrique]

6. someone needs to email him The List n/t

[Skittles]

9. THAT WAS THE CORRECT RESPONSE

[teddy51]

12. Why? Maybe if your a career politician it was, but not if you believe in a true Liberal platform.

[Divine Discontent]

15. I think, perhaps they're saying no one can answer that.

If I'm wrong, I apologize, but that's what I think is being implied.

:hi:

[teddy51]

16. I understand the need to do that, but not sure I like it.... Oh well, I will get over it. n/t

[Skittles]

19. the NEED? He literally could not answer

HE WAS BEING TRUTHFUL - he knows damn well Obama is a moderate, and perhaps right of that

[Cosmocat]

22. WTF does it have be either?

seriously?

There is a whole lot that lies between the extreme opposites ...

[Mr Deltoid]

25. Liberal and conservative are not extremes

Liberalism is the mildest form of leftism. Conservatism is the mildest form of rightism.

If you are neither then you believe in nothing.

[Cosmocat]

31. You prove my point ...

"if you are neither then you believe in nothing."

Sorry, could not be more wrong. And, sorry, this is republican thinking. A forced false choice.

[Mr Deltoid]

35. Do tell what lies between thesee 'extremes' as you call them?

[Mr Deltoid]

24. He implied that Obama believes in nothing

I found it disturbing.

[FrenchieCat]

30. You can always vote for Huntsman!

[Bluenorthwest]

34. You know, the WH says that the election will be decided by

independents, who vote for either Party, depending. So 'You can always vote for the Republican' is a decidedly unsuitable argument to make to the deciding electorate, as defined by the WH. The voters Obama most desires and needs might just vote for the Republican, they are after all, independent moderate centrists, the apple of the Beltway's eye.

[Bake]

36. Hell, we know the answer to that one.

And it's not "liberal."

Bake