Franken, Sanders, Kerry, Boxer, Obama...

[MadBadger]

all Corporate Sellouts according to many at DU

Anybody I miss?

[sandnsea]

1. Vicki Kennedy and Bill Clinton n/t

[MadBadger]

3. Hmm, i heard Vicki was a twit, must have missed the corporate sellout part...

[Pirate Smile]

41. Don't forget Biden.

[FrenchieCat]

2. Rep. Wiener, Krugman, Mrs. Kennedy.....

I know for sure there are more....

[patrice]

23. But each state will have to mount a campaign to protect women's choice in

reproductive services, correct? - if anti-Choice mounts a campaign in your state to limit funding under the new HCR, which they will most certainly, that fight is going to have to be carried out state by state, right or wrong?

[Norrin Radd]

52. So you like Krugman now? He no longer looks like a rat to you?

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8284783&mesg_id=8286596

[joshcryer]

58. Oh, go back to the primaries, people were calling Krugman really nasty stuff then.

And ironically it was only because of mandates, which the vast majority of Obama supporters were supposedly against.

[bluestateguy]

4. Paul Krugman

And Anthony Weiner, and probably Dick Grayson too.

[babylonsister]

6. Alan Grayson, too! nt

[Cant trust em]

13. Dick Grayson?

Not Robin! I'm so disillusioned.

[joshcryer]

48. Krugman was thrown under the bus during the primaries. He's behind HCR because of mandates.

Which ironically was the central difference between HRC and BHO. Only I think HRC would have never allowed mandates to exist without a robust public option.

[verges]

59. NOT ROBIN!!!! OH NO!!!!! nt

[babylonsister]

5. What about Feingold? He voted for the bill, too. Has he been thrown

under that proverbial bus?

Hard to fathom DU has sunk so low.

[vaberella]

9. Oh my God....when did Feingold fall into the pits of hell with Obama?!

I would never have expected it. Welcome Feingold.

[vaberella]

7. You're keeping tabs too. Throw in Vickie Kennedy---DU says Rahm strong armed her.

Yes, I've been keeping tabs of all the utter failures and losers that keep proping up. Rahm is the real President strong arming all these people. DU told me.

[MadBadger]

11. Teddy was called a "serial rapist" today and Vicki a "twit"

Anybody else in the Kennedy family DU can slander?

[babylonsister]

15. Jeeze, I read that. I hope it was deleted. nt

[vaberella]

19. Oh...oh I didn't read the Teddy one. But I think I responded to the twit one, or the thread itself.

Amazing these DUers.

[graywarrior]

57. That little bastard kid, the one with the cancer...Teddy Jr. Let's not forget

to rip him to shreds.

[NJmaverick]

8. A good number of DUers

[vaberella]

14. Well I've always been in support and have been called an unashamed cheerleader.

I share ranks with the all mighties- Clio the Leo/Cha/ClarkUSA. Ugh the bastards---they hate America nad only love Obama---he hyptnotized us with googly eyes and Kool-Aid or we've been strong-armed by Rahm----depending on how important on the economic spectrum we are.

[MadBadger]

25. This place has made me much more sarcastic and snarky than i usually am

Most of my posts now just ridicule the avid Obama can do no right...ers.

[vaberella]

26. Hah. ~sigh~ n/t

[bigwillq]

10. Ponies

:rofl:

[saltpoint]

12. Also they sell drugs to 3rd graders and have sex with sub-Saharan

beasts.

I expect numerous posts accusing that group of exactly those things any moment now.

It's BATSHIT CRAZY, in the opinion of this observer.

[vaberella]

16. There are animals that can live in the sub-sahara? n/t

[saltpoint]

18. blue ones green ones big ones small ones.

[vaberella]

20. The most salacious thought went through my head reading that statement. n/t

[saltpoint]

22. Africa is a vivid land, etc.

[tblue]

17. John Kerry, yes, for the reimport vote.

The rest, I don't agree. It's a bad bill, but I can't accuse them of shilling because of this vote. They're between a rock and a hard place. The ones I blame are those who never even tried to get us real reform. Them I cast out of the tent.

[mcablue]

21. I have seen zero bill supporters criticizing Franken for voting for the Dorgan amendment

They claim the medicines are contaminated, but won't call Franken a people-contaminator. They only invoke Franken's name when he does something they like.

[vaberella]

24. I have seen it too---but I would NEVER have expected them to use a Menendez argument.

That makes no sense because Menendez in 2006/2007 had supported a similar measure in advance. I allow people to change their minds. I mean shit happens. But the argument didn't hold water for me.

[Ozymanithrax]

27. Under the bus is very crowded around here.

[bigwillq]

28. Yes, especially with all the gay folk

that's down here.

[vaberella]

31. How so?n/t

[bigwillq]

56. ......

http://gay.americablog.com/2009/12/this-just-in-advocate-obama-admin.html

Among other things. Nothing (yet) on Don't Ask, Don't tell. Obama barely making a public statement on Iowa and Maine during the last year (well he did make a joke about it at the correspondent's dinner).

Fierce advocate, my ass.

[politicasista]

29. VP Biden n/t

[Splinter Cell]

30. Yeah...

Everybody except Kucinich and Howard Dean, and maybe Che.

[Bullet1987]

32. I don't believe the Progressives like Franken, Feingold and Boxer

want this. I think they're being pressured, forced to fall in line by the White House. Could some of them like maybe Kerry be part of the pro-insurance industry squad? Possibly. He DID get the Democratic nomination and I'm beginning to believe you don't make it that far unless you're already compromised.

[CreekDog]

50. extraordinary claim you are making, got a scintilla of evidence?

i mean i am as liberal as Barbara Boxer and I support the bill, is somebody pressuring me?

you find it so hard to believe that somebody could support this without being forced?

meaning if they could think they would agree with you.

you must be very modest.

[boppers]

33. Is Kuncinich still safe?

Or has he been piled on, as well?

[MadBadger]

34. Well, he's safe from the DLC stooge charge, however

Worthless idealist charge is something entirely different.

[boppers]

35. Ah, smears and slurs against our own is sooo helpful.

The alert button has been getting a workout from me lately.

[gardenista]

36. Had to log in after a long hiatus to rec this!

'course that's why I'm a sellout too.

And praying that we can get HCR to save the life of my cousin- 23, working, mother of a five year old, just got dx with Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma

[lamp_shade]

46. You, like hundreds of other thoughtful, rational and supportive posters have taken

to the hills. Let's hope this "phase" is over soon.

[girl gone mad]

37. "Don't Think We're Not Keeping Score, Brother"

When the President says that to a popular Democratic rep., you can only guess the kind of intimidation going on behind the scenes.

[Hekate]

39. I thought Obama was supposed to be wimpy and unable to get the Dems in line?

I thought he wasn't doing anything behind the scenes to move the bill forward because we can't see him doing it?
I thought whatever is going on behind the scenes is proof of no transparency because we can't see him doing it?

I can't keep up....

Hekate

[girl gone mad]

44. That only applies to Lieberman and the blue dogs.

He doesn't seem to have a problem bullying and name-calling liberals.

[PopSixSquish]

61. Hasn't That Story Been DeBunked?

As a joking exchange between the President and the rep having taken place months ago after the stimulus vote? And Rep. DeFazio voted for the House version of the bill.

Most of the House Dems that voted against the bill were Blue Dogs.

Google is your friend...

[davidpdx]

38. Catagory: people who've been thrown under the bus

Damn I thought we were playing $20,000 Pyramid!

[wisteria]

40. VP Biden. But, I don't think any of those named are sell outs. n/t

[cliffordu]

42. Grantcart. You missed grantcart.

[grantcart]

43. I prefer leasing arrangements - it allows me to capitalize on the upside

when the market rebounds and I can resell my paper for a higher rate and then amortize the capital gain over a 20 year period.

[lamp_shade]

45. This is the BEST POST I've seen in weeks here. If you were to eliminate the "unrecs"

this post would be on the top of the greatest page with at least 300 recs. The unrecers seem to come in herds. Sad stuff.

[Name removed]

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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[lamp_shade]

54. Thank you Mods.

[Blasphemer]

47. How many Democrats are in Congress? It's a long list. Keep going... nt

[joshcryer]

49. That is political reality in the USA. Sorry, but it is.

I mean, they're *openly* and *flagrantly* adding in shit that *obviously* caters to lobbyists. I predict that someone like Franken will get out of the business if he can't manage to reign it in, because he knows it's bullshit.

But, political reality.

[JTFrog]

53. K&R

[Armstead]

55. You are glad the liberals were beaten down by Big Insurance?

There are many good liberals who have decided that the fight is over, such as Sanders. But they do bnot like this bill.

They were broken down by the Crap Wing of the Democratic Party. I'm beginning to think Obama is the leader of the Crap Wing.

Why are you so happy that a bill that IS a corporate sell out has been rammed through and beatebn down positive ideas like Medicare access?

You are glad we sold out this issue to Big Insurance? This is a victory to you?

[PopSixSquish]

62. I'm Fucking Thrilled. So Much So That I Plan

to run nekkid through the parking lot and then set cars on fire just like when my team wins the Super Bowl or the NBA Championship.

Get a grip...

I'm not happy and I don't plan to stop fighting for better legislation in the future. I doubt Bernie Sanders will either...

:wtf:

[phleshdef]

63. So when its just Obama, its "selling out", but when its everyone we like, its "beat down".

I see how that works.

[Mass]

60. Name calling on both sides does not help the debate, but people have to stop saying this bill is

good.

These people have decided to support this bill because they think this bill is better than no bill. It does not make it a good bill.