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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:19 PM
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WTF: September 11th Terror Attacks made US stronger, Obama says
Edited on Sat Sep-10-11 10:22 PM by Cali_Democrat
You've gotta be kidding me. After the 9/11 attacks, we were gifted with:

- Two wars costing trillions of dollars and thousands of US lives along with the lives of hundreds of thousands of foreign civilians
- Extrajudicial killings via cowardly drone attacks
- Massive new defense spending
- The Patriot Act and illegal domestic surveillance against Americans
- Indefinite Detention
- Torture
- Massive hatred from the Muslim world.
- A bankrupt Treasury
- A shattered economy

Now Obama is gonna say 9/11 made the US stronger? With all due respect, President Obama, that is complete and utter BULLSHIT!!

See here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14867146

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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:20 PM
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1. That's a load of horse shit
WTF indeed.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:57 PM
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17. Agreed n/t
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:22 PM
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2. This is part of what I heard:
"A decade after 9/11, it's clear for all the world to see — the terrorists who attacked us that September morning are no match for the character of our people, the resilience of our nation, or the endurance of our values." - President Obama
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:24 PM
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5. Hahahahaha! nt
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:24 PM
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4. Headline sucks. Read the text in the article
Edited on Sat Sep-10-11 10:31 PM by Tx4obama
Excerpt from the link in the OP

SNIP

The United States is stronger 10 years on from the 9/11 attacks and al-Qaeda is "on the path to defeat", President Barack Obama has said.

"As a resilient nation, we will carry on," he told Americans on the eve of the anniversary of the attacks.

SNIP

"Thanks to the tireless efforts of our military personnel and our intelligence, law enforcement and homeland security professionals, there should be no doubt: today, America is stronger and al-Qaeda is on the path to defeat," President Obama said in his weekly address.

SNIP

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:28 PM
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8. From the article:
"Thanks to the tireless efforts of our military personnel and our intelligence, law enforcement and homeland security professionals, there should be no doubt: today, America is stronger and al-Qaeda is on the path to defeat," President Obama said in his weekly address.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 03:28 AM
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22. stronger in the sense that
you are a lot safer with Obama on the watch and the overhauling and revamping of some of the intelligence divisions.

why would you be so upset about this?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:32 PM
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42. I'll be honest, I don't feel like we're stronger, or safer since 9/11. In fact, I feel
as if we are more at risk than ever before because of the actions started by Bush and continued by Obama.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 02:16 PM
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47. you may be right
I was thinking more along the lines of the scare tactics Bush used with his little Terror Alert colours. Everyone was to feel weak and fearful and helpless, I think that has changed. Undoubtedly there are always other problems that take the place of old ones but the Bush years were extraordinarily fraught with fear and distrust.

I watched Farenheit 911 the other night and had a flash back of how gawd awful those terrible years were. All those criminals faces again, I just went into autoswear mode through those parts.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 02:47 AM
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21. Do you think America is stronger today since 9/11? Yes or no?
Simple question.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 04:37 AM
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23. Yes.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 07:17 AM
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26. Yes, I do.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:38 AM
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28. No (nt)
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:52 AM
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30. Do you expect or actually want him to say...
America is nothing more than POS Nation that should wither & die? Seriously, he is the POTUS he must project a vision of strength...It seems like Obama could NEVER say ANYTHING correct to some folks here on DU.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:47 AM
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39. Yes, hell it got stronger just by bush leaving office
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:36 PM
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40. America is a freaking trainwreck
Jaysus
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:35 PM
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43. No. In fact, I feel we are weaker and now have a greater chance of being attacked again. The
actions take by Bush and continued by Obama have made us more susceptible to retaliation by those that do want to do harm to us.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:40 PM
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45. we would have been if we had chosen not to fight but to take
advantage of world-wide good will and used a fraction of the war money on
beefing up intelligence and homeland/airport security
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:50 AM
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29. Anything he says must be attacked as the most evil thing ever said.
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tawadi Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:24 PM
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6. Please tell me that was only the BBC headline and not an actual quote
:-(
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:28 PM
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9. From the article:
"Thanks to the tireless efforts of our military personnel and our intelligence, law enforcement and homeland security professionals, there should be no doubt: today, America is stronger and al-Qaeda is on the path to defeat," President Obama said in his weekly address.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:32 PM
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11. See coment #4. n/t
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 03:52 PM
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49. Once you read comment #4, read comment #8.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:25 PM
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7. Stronger for the elites
Few of those items listed impact them, but it gives them more control over the rest of us, so from his perspective he's probably right.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:32 PM
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10. The headline is crap. If one actually READS, that is not what the President said.
Edited on Sat Sep-10-11 10:33 PM by CakeGrrl
Reading his actual quote, it was the EFFORTS of the responders that made America stronger, not being attacked.

Jeezus.

:eyes:

Too bad the OP fell for the BBC misleading headline.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:43 PM
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13. "Too bad the OP fell for the BBC misleading headline."
Edited on Sat Sep-10-11 10:43 PM by Tarheel_Dem
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 02:18 PM
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48. +1
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 04:10 PM
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50. What the president actually said
The paragraph in question:

"Thanks to the tireless efforts of our military personnel and our intelligence, law enforcement and homeland security professionals, there should be no doubt: today, America is stronger and al-Qaeda is on the path to defeat," President Obama said in his weekly address.


He did mention the police, but not sure what other responders you are speaking of. It's funny, because I don't feel safer, nor do I believe America is stronger. If anything, I think the actions of Bush and Obama have made America weaker and make us less safe.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:37 PM
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12. What a load. Nice try. Oh, and yawn, again. nt
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:43 PM
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14. "there should be no doubt: today, America is stronger"
What a load, indeed.

Some folks would like to keep swallowing the bullshit, while others choose to live in reality.

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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:55 PM
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16.  I read the article. "there should be no doubt: today,
America is stronger". Yep, I think he means America is stronger, even if one reads it back wards.:shrug:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:54 PM
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15. See here
Let's reclaim the post-9/11 unity

Ten Septembers have come and gone since that awful morning. But on this 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, we are summoned once more to honor those we lost by keeping our country strong and true to their memory.

Over the coming days, we will remember nearly 3,000 innocent victims — fathers and mothers, sisters and brothers, sons and daughters who were simply going about their daily lives on a beautiful Tuesday morning. And we'll talk to our children about what happened on that day, and what's happened since.

Like every American, I'll never forget how I heard the terrible news, on the car radio on my way to work in Chicago. Yet like a lot of younger Americans, our daughters have no memory of that day. Malia was just 3; Sasha was an infant. As they've grown, Michelle and I faced the same challenge as other parents in deciding how to talk with our children about 9/11.

One of the things we've told them is that the worst terrorist attack in American history also brought out the best in our country. Firefighters, police and first responders rushed into danger to save others. Americans came together in candlelight vigils, in our houses of worship and on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. Volunteers lined up to give blood and drove across the country to lend a hand. Schoolchildren donated their savings. Communities, faith groups and businesses collected food and clothing. We were united, as Americans.

This is the true spirit of America we must reclaim this anniversary — the ordinary goodness and patriotism of the American people and the unity that we needed to move forward together, as one nation.

Indeed, the last decade has been a challenging one for our country. But we have also seen the strength of the United States— in cities that have refused to give in to fear; in communities that have persevered through hard economic times; and, above all, in our men and women in uniform and their families who have borne an extraordinary burden for our security and our values.

The perpetrators of those attacks wanted to terrorize us, but they are no match for our resilience. Today, our country is more secure and our enemies are weaker. Yet while we have delivered justice to Osama bin Laden and put al-Qaeda on the path to defeat, we must never waver in the task of protecting our nation.

On a day when others sought to destroy, we choose to build. Once again, Sept. 11 will be a National Day of Service and Remembrance, and at Serve.gov every American can make a commitment to honor the victims and heroes of 9/11 by serving our neighbors and communities.

Finally, on a day when others tried to divide us, we can regain the sense of common purpose that stirred in our hearts 10 years ago. As a nation, we face difficult challenges, and as citizens in a democratic society we engage in vigorous debates about the future. But as we do, let's never forget the lesson we learned anew 10 years ago — that our differences pale beside what unites us and that when we choose to move forward together, as one American family, the United States doesn't just endure, we can emerge from our tests and trials stronger than before.

That's the America we were on 9/11 and in the days that followed.

That's the America we can and must always be.

By President Obama

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/09/09/op-ed-president-obama-usa-today-lets-reclaim-post-911-unity
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:57 PM
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19. good for us. let's reclaim all the war profiteer corporations unpaid tax obligations ok? nt
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:57 PM
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18. In America, you have to speak like the Americans do... or they won't play with you anymore. nt
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:08 PM
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20. Where the hell did he get that idea? The 9/11 attacks did
exactly what Bin Laden set out to do. He has driven this country to near bankruptcy with two wars and a depression. We basically shredded many of our constitutional rights. In this case I would say Obama full of crap.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 04:39 AM
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24. You lost me at "cowardly drone attacks ".
You might as well condemn tanks, bombers, mortars, and any weapon beyond fisticuffs.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:56 AM
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25. Well, maybe we are more secure against terrorists strikes in US.
But I agree that on balance the aftermath of 911 has been one complete horrendous disaster for the US and its "values."
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 07:43 AM
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27. It will have made us stronger - once all the wounds heal.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-11 07:44 AM by baldguy
It'll take about a century to recover from all the harm Bush has done to this country.

If we don't, we will have been destroyed.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:59 AM
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31. Jeesh some people just never give up..what the hell is he supposed to say, that we
are more divided than we have ever been and our military is so stretched y'all can come bomb us and take over, we'll leave the light on for ya.:banghead:
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:23 AM
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32. Use common sense. Thats the kind of shit a President is suppose to say.
Its regular ass Presidential PR shit.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:24 AM
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33. Bald faced lie. I wonder how many Republicans buy this bullshit.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:51 AM
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35. The person who posted for one and many who listen to Fox News.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:48 AM
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34. Next we'll be hearing how much better off we are because he extended Bush's tax cuts for the rich
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:22 AM
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36. I cannot believe those words came from his mouth
WTF Now if Monkeyboy said that, I would believe it
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:30 AM
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37. Hmmm?
Per your post here

"Thanks to the tireless efforts of our military personnel and our intelligence, law enforcement and homeland security professionals, there should be no doubt: today, America is stronger and al-Qaeda is on the path to defeat," President Obama said in his weekly address.

Obama said what???

Seriously, WTF?


We're all Fox Noise now!!!




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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:34 AM
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38. Concentrate on what the man actually said and you'll throw alot less fits.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 02:15 PM
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46. I doubt many read past the BS headline.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:51 PM
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51. "America is stronger and al-Qaeda is on the path to defeat," President Obama said in his weekly ..."
Either America is stronger, or it's not.
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:49 PM
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52. 9/11 didn't make us stronger. Our collective reaction to it did. Don't be so obtuse.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:52 PM
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53. I hardly believe that America is stronger now than it was prior 9/11/2001. If anything
Edited on Sun Sep-11-11 06:58 PM by Exilednight
I believe us to be a weaker nation and less safe.

Edit: I wasn't being obtuse, I was putting up the quote and stating a fact. Either it made us stronger or it didn't. I believe it to be a patently false statement to believe we are a stronger nation. We're more divided now than ever before. At least when Bush's poll numbers sucked the country was united against him.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 09:57 PM
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54. "I believe it to be a patently false statement to believe we are a stronger nation"
You are correct. The notion that we are stronger is laughable.
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rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:53 PM
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41. We are thousands of times weaker!
We are trillions in debt because of the attack--exactly how bin Laden hoped it would turn out to be.
We became the torturers, and thereby lost our moral authority.
With Homeland Security, we've become weak, trembling cowards, afraid of liquids and shoes.
We've lost thousands of Americans.
We've killed thousand of non Americans.
We are currently droning hundreds of innocents abroad.
We are on the cusp of turning our country over to the insane religious party.

Obama is playing his role, as scripted, by conveying chauvinistic shibboleths. Even if he believed otherwise, that's about all he can do. And if he believed otherwise, he doesn't have the chutzpah to say anything differently. And, yet very few of us could do it either.:(
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:39 PM
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44. biden talked about how great bush was too. It's all orchestrated nt
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 12:45 AM
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55. On 9/11, Bush was President. The GOP no longer holds the WH. That's stronger.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-11 12:45 AM by scheming daemons
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 01:00 AM
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56. +1
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