If Obama's approval rating is plummeting because of his jobs plan, why don't people like the plan?

[Cali_Democrat]

Do they think it's not bold enough or do they think it's too expensive? Or is there some other reason they don't like it?

The Bloomberg article doesn't really specify either way.

Here's the article: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-14/obama-approval-drops-on-skepticism-of-jobs-plan.html

[GOTV]

1. By my reading the article seems to say people don't think it will work.

[TheWraith]

2. The Bloomberg article is bullshit.

They're claiming he's "tanking" to 45%. Although Gallup shows him on the upswing. It's just media manipulation bullshit. Bloomberg, both the man and the news entity, represent the ultra rich who would see higher taxes out of this, so they have a vested interest in defeating the plan.

[Imajika]

16. Gallup has Obama at 40% approval

Hardly an upswing, in fact it's down 3 from yesterday.

[JaneQPublic]

3. Obama's rating is down because the economy stinks now...

...not because of Obama's job plan or anyone else's.

[abelenkpe]

13. Someone else has a job plan? nt

[ProSense]

4. Maybe it's because

"The Bloomberg article doesn't really specify either way. "

...the article left out the details show that Americans actually like elements of the plan.

Here's thhe PDF:

President Barack Obama has proposed a package of tax cuts, spending on public works and aid to local
governments that will cost an estimated $447 billion. Do you think that will or will not help lower the
unemployment rate?
40 Will help
51 Will not help
9 Not sure

As part of his plan, the president has proposed a temporary cut in payroll taxes that both employees and
employers pay, at a cost to the U.S. Treasury of $240 billion. Do you favor or oppose this?
45 Favor
45 Oppose
10 Not sure

As part of it, he also has proposed sending $35 billion in federal aid to state and local governments next
year to avoid further layoffs of teachers, police officers and firefighters. Do you favor or oppose this?
71 Favor
27 Oppose
2 Not sure

So they're split on the payroll temporary cut in payroll taxes, but overwhelmingly support the aid to state and local governments.

It'll be interesting to see the results of subsequent poll because this was taken before the details of the package were announced. Also, the President making the case to the American people will help.

Based on another poll: Jobs fight gives Obama major opportunity with independents

[Ian David]

5. Latest Poll: Reuters has Obama approval moving up to 47% in wake of jobs plan. Leads Romney 49%-43%,

Latest Poll: Reuters has #Obama approval moving up to 47% in wake of #jobs plan. Leads #Romney 49%-43%, #Perry 50%-42%
http://twitter.com/#!/WestWingReport/status/114030434316333057

[Avalux]

6. It's a comprehension problem. n/t

[Lord Helmet]

7. His approval rating and public opinion on the bill are actually rising.

[frazzled]

8. What tanking?

The OP contains a presupposition that is not supported by polls across the board, and in fact not really by this Bloomberg poll.

Approval of 47% (or 44%, take your pick) is not a "tank"--except if you compare it to post-inaugural, honeymoon numbers from two and a half years ago, and it's surprisingly good for a president in the current economic situation.

If you're trying to spread doom and gloom, there are a lot of unthinking people who will buy it. But it doesn't make it true.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. I meant plummeting

Title fixed.

[frazzled]

10. Means the same thing: my response stands

Obama's approval ratings have been pretty much stable for the last year--in the mid to high 40s, give or take a point due to daily fluctuation.

[Cali_Democrat]

11. I believe the article was specific to his approval numbers on the economy

When they say it's plummeting. They tied the jobs plan to his economy approval numbers.

[abelenkpe]

12. His job plan has no chance of passing because of republicans

Also it would be better if it was a WPA style program instead of tax cuts aimed at "encouraging" businesses to hire. (That's the type of stuff that makes people compare him to Hoover) Without demand businesses won't hire. You can get demand back by improving employment through a WPA style jobs program. But really people aren't upset about the plan. Any plan to tackle unemployment is a step in the right direction. But most see that nothing will happen with this current congress because they suck. Republicans literally want the economy to tank. They want people unemployed and in misery because they think that will make people disillusioned about government, not turn out to vote or vote for their idiotic lying sub human republican candidates.

[EC]

14. If anything

not bold enough. People don't see jobs in tax cuts and regulations. What they want to hear is "building" rather the words themself...jobs, jobs, jobs. It needs to be pointed out to them that with the rehabs of schools job also will bring clerical, electical, HVAC, tech and food service jobs, etc.. They need to hear the words telling them directly that the government will be creating jobs for them. The repub mantra of the government doesn't create jobs has to be shown as bull.

[JoePhilly]

15. Can't wait for the liberal media to get on that.

[Lil Missy]

17. His approval rating is rising. n/t

[phleshdef]

18. There is no concrete read on the reaction to the jobs plan yet. Its too soon.

I figure the numbers we start seeing after this week will be much more accurate indicators, but what we are seeing right now is a rise in some polls.

[boxman15]

19. ^This.

I'm only expecting a small bump in the short term, but we'll see.

The key is going to be messaging in the long term, though. Outside of some minor provisions, the plan is going to get struck down by the GOP. Obama needs to stay true to his word and take the message of "I've tried. I want to create jobs. They're not letting me." to every corner of the country. Make the details of the plan known and cut through the spin and crap. If he does this, 2012 will be a cakewalk. If he doesn't, he'll either lose, or win in a close race but still have to deal with Republicans in Congress.