Republicans' mission is almost accomplished.

[jenmito]

THEY have refused to help make the economy better by voting against any and every jobs bill, they have done their best to hurt the economy by getting rid of public sector jobs, they have fought against President Obama every day on everything he does or says, they have disrespected him by saying he's "in over his head," an "apologist" to the rest of the world, a "divider instead of a uniter," a straight-out "liar," and worse, and now they're blaming HIM for ALL of this.

I REALLY hope the Dems. will run clips over and over of McConnell saying the Repubs.' first priority is to make Obama a "one-term president" to make it clear WHY things are in the shape they're in. Otherwise, Obama may lose reelection next year, with people believing everything is his fault. This has been a well-orchestrated (yet transparent) attempt to make Obama a one-term president as they've wanted from the beginning. We can't let them get away with this.

Can't we stop fighting amongst ourselves and focus on the Repubs.??? They're sure focused on stealing the WH!

[Andy823]

1. I hope so too.

Besides the clips of McConnell saying his goal is to make sure president Obama is a one term president, they also need to run ads about all the jobs that have been lost since republicans took control of the house, and the fact that not on jobs bill that was a "REAL" bill to put people to work, has come to the floor by any republican. Also they need to make sure to let the people know that the bills the republicans did come up with, would have lost more jobs, and would have deregulated everything they could in order to help the corporations, banks and Wall street do the same things that got us into this mess during the Bush years!

There is so much out there that could be used to show the country what the republicans are really about, and like you I hope they use every bit of next year.

[jenmito]

2. Yeah...

I agree. Our side has a LOT of ammo we could use to show how anti-jobs the Repubs. have been, and all to hurt Obama.

[drmeow]

8. Unfortunately I don't think

we can rely on the Democratic party to take advantage of the campaign against the Republicans being handed to them on a plate or the ads writing themselves. I think if we want to see powerful ads like that, they are going to have to come from PACs. Until we can overturn it, the left needs to take advantage of Citizen's United as much as we possibly can. Otherwise we are playing against a stacked deck.

[monmouth]

3. So nice to read a positive OP for a change. n/t

[rhett o rick]

4. You are revealing a big part of the problem. THose that think the two sides in this war

are Democrats vs. Republicons are sadly naive. Wouldnt it be nice if life were so simple. Here is an example: When Rahm Emmanuel comes out against Occupy, who should we "stick together" with? Rahm isnt one of the 99%. He supports the 1%.

Of course we must fight the corporatists in the republicon party, that's easy to see. But more challenging is get rid of the damned turn-coat bastard blue fucking dogs that call themselves Democrats but actually SUPPORT THE REPUBLICONS.

How do we have a chance to defeat the republicons when we cant even rid our own ranks of corporatists?

[jenmito]

15. There's a HUGE difference between the two parties. If we get a Repub. president,

he'll set back the country 100 years. He'll sign legislation to defund Planned Parenthood, the EPA, and other things, he'll appoint ultra Conservatives to the Supreme Court, and much more.

[rhett o rick]

35. Again I think you are missing the problem. It isnt just the republicons.

Occupy isnt happening because the repubicons are so effective in representing the corporatists but ALSO because the Democrats are so ineffective at stopping the corporatists.

While you are concentrating on defeating the bad, bad republicons, corporatist Democrats are being elected.

The OP said we should not fight among ourselves. Again I ask, when Rahm Emmanuel comes out against Occupy, who do you stand with? The same goes with Bloomberg. The questions isnt whether Rahm or Bloomberg are Democrats or REpublicons but whether they represent the 1% or the 99%.

[woo me with science]

42. You are absolutely right, of course.

Even as we speak, the Obama administration is busily finalizing an unconscionable settlement that will let the criminal banks that crashed this economy and left millions in poverty off the hook for an outrageous, insulting 25 billion dollars.

Meanwhile, they await the Super Theft Committee "consensus" on Obama's proposed cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

The Occupy Wall Street movement is so important precisely because it reflects the awakening of Americans, finally, to what is being done to them, and to the fact that the old (D) and (R) labels don't necessarily mean what they used to.

Yes, it is important to elect Democrats, but it is far more important to elect the RIGHT Democrats. And most of all, you are right: It is critical that we identify and purge the Third Way corporatists who have infiltrated our party.

[rhett o rick]

44. This should be an OP. nm

[woo me with science]

48. It's a hard pill for some,

but thank goodness the 99 percent is waking up.

Thanks.

[CakeGrrl]

5. Based on some recent posts and comments on this forum,

the answer is a resounding "no". The upside is that the level of infighting doesn't appear to be representative of attitudes outside the blogosphere.

[jenmito]

16. Sadly, I agree...

but I also agree that in the outside world, things are better. But those Dems. in the "real world" need to start going on offense against the Repubs. who are almost always united in their talking points and opposition to this president and other Dem. politicians.

[rhett o rick]

36. Infighting needs to be defined. The fight is between the 1% and the 99%.

Fighting Democrats that represent the 1% isnt "infighting".

[MNBrewer]

6. The problem is that too many Dems behave as Repubs

Can't go just based on the letter next to the name.

[msongs]

7. Mr. obama should defend himself. that's not our job nt

[CakeGrrl]

10. "Mr. Obama" is out on the road combatting the Corporate MSM/PL spin

while some of you go out and parrot it.

[MNBrewer]

11. Oh MY. A broad brush comparison

[CakeGrrl]

13. This is why the word "some" is used.

Lesson of the day.

:hi:

[MNBrewer]

14. Oh

:rofl:

[jenmito]

17. It IS our job. He's not the only Dem. in the country, and if we don't help him get

reelected, our country will be turned back 100 years. We'll be way worse off with a Repub. president.

[dionysus]

24. we all know that supporting democrats most certainly isn't "your job"

:rofl:

[MNBrewer]

9. If only there were some sort of "opposition" party!

A political party that could "oppose" the Republican agenda.

[jenmito]

18. Where have you been? Do you really think DADT would've been repealed with a Repub. president?

Do you think 2 liberals would've been appointed to the Supreme Court? Do you think the Lilly Ledbetter Act would've been signed into law? I could go on and on...

[MNBrewer]

21. Or signed into law with a Dem president?

[geek tragedy]

26. What will you do during election season since

you won't be able to contribute here?

[CakeGrrl]

23. NO, jenmito, the GOP would NEVER have done those things.

And if people want to find out the hard way, put the GOP back in power and see what they repeal.

Anyone who's been remotely in touch with the crop of GOP candidates knows full well what they want to do, and it's largely about UNDOING what the Obama administration has done.

It puts lie to the notion that the President is really a stealth friend of the GOP. That's damned ridiculous.

[jenmito]

27. Thank you, CakeGrrl...

I'm afraid there are more than a few Dems. who DO want to find out the hard way.

The difference between what Obama wants to do for the country and what any of the Repubs. would do TO the country is night and day. A Repub. would put this country back in the Dark Ages.

:hi:

[Zoeisright]

31. Exactly. I'm sick of these fucking lies

and right wing talking points.

[MNBrewer]

34. It would have been impossible for George W. Bush to be as bad as he was

had he not been aided and abetted by LARGE numbers of elected Democrats. The Democratic Party basically rolled over every time Bush opened his mouth after 9/11. The Democrats share equally in the blame for our disastrous war in Iraq, for the PATRIOT Act, for our current warrant-less murder sprees....

Simply preventing a Republican POTUS is a losing proposition, because there WILL be another Republican President. Democrats MUST be willing to oppose the Republicans more than once ever 4 years.

Democrats unwilling to do that aren't worth voting for.

[Skittles]

30. no one says he hasn't done ANYTHING

but has he done the best he could do? HELL FUCKING NO.

[jenmito]

39. The poster I was responding to said

there was no opposition party to the Repub. party. That's BS, and I gave only a couple examples to back it up.

[MNBrewer]

45. If you want to see what an opposition party REALLY looks like

Look at today's Republicans. The Democrats should have been willing to shut down the government rather than let George Bush drag us into war with Iraq, but they signed off on it, instead. They helped pass the PATRIOT Act. Too many were collaborators, not opposition!

[jenmito]

46. I DO look at the Republicans, and I really fear that people

like you won't see any difference between them (due to your post), when I just mentioned a couple differences and there are MANY more. Yup, too many Dems. DID vote with the Repubs. to go into Iraq, but if you didn't like THAT, just see how much worse it would be with Repubs. in charge again. There's a huge difference, like I said.

[MNBrewer]

49. We survived 8 years of George Bush, worse off for the Democratic collaboration he received

Until Democrats stop collaborating, it really doesn't matter who occupies the White House.

[jenmito]

50. If you want to keep mentioning the bad apple Conservadems as a reason

to claim it doesn't matter whether a Repub. or a Dem. (Obama in this case) is president, you're misguided. I guess it wouldn't bother you if Roe v. Wade got repealed, if the EPA and Planned Parenthood get totally defunded, etc. :eyes:

[rhett o rick]

37. Sadly Occupy doesnt agree with you. DADT isnt feeding the children living in cars and tents. nm

[paparush]

12. "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat." - Will Rogers

[jenmito]

19. Yup...

that's why we couldn't even close Gitmo when we had 60 Dems. in the Senate-the Conservadems voted with the Repubs. to not allow Gitmo detainees to come to any super max.-security prison in the U.S. :eyes:

[Ikonoklast]

22. Will Roger is DEAD.

Funny how all us dis-organized Democrats managed to get a Black Man elected President though, hmmm?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

20. Voters should see them for what they really are

the media protect the GOP. The GOP does not care about jobs and the economy. It's solution is to wage never ending wars and siphon off the money for their corporate masters.

[zbdent]

25. if there truly were a "liberally-biased media" ...

the vid of McConnell saying "first priority is to make Obama a 'one-term president'" would already have been the mainstream equivalent of "going viral" ...

[jenmito]

28. Good point...

but there isn't, so Dems. will have to pay for that to be played, sadly.

[applegrove]

29. McConnell was whining yesterday that obama wanted the debt supercomittee talks

to be rejected by the republicans so Obama can score political points.... hey a**hole! Isn't the point of the debt talks to do something about that a-l-l i-m-p-o-r-t-a-n-t debt that you on the right are really worried about right down to your souls??? All the GOP sees is the politics. They exist on no other plane. They don't care about the debt at all.

[blkmusclmachine]

32. Regardless of who "wins" in 2012, I fully expect we'll continue to get GOP policy:

I say let the GOP OWN their terrible policy. Work downballot if there are any good DEMs in 2012.

No more running under the cover of phony "bi-partisanship."

[jenmito]

40. Bull..

unless you think a Repub. would've appointed 2 Supreme Court justices who would always vote on the liberal side-AGAINST Thomas and Scalia, or you think they'd try to end tax cuts for the top 2%, or end DADT, and a whole list of other things.

[flpoljunkie]

33. Yes, we can. And, we must.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

38. Run ads where Boehner takes glee at the loss of public sector/government jobs.

That soundbite of him saying "if government jobs are lost in the process, then so be it" should be on a continuous loop, right along with McConnell's disgusting declaration and Jim DeMint's racist "Waterloo" comment.

If Obama/Democrats lose this fight, it is THEIR fault. This kind of shit drove me up the fucking wall in 2004 when all the Kerry camp had to do was run Bush's flip flops, lies, and incendiary statements on a loop.

The Democrats SUCK at messaging. They should not be losing this fight.

We cannot expect for Obama to be out there all alone fighting. Where are the Democrats? Why aren't they on the Sunday morning talk shows?

Where the fuck are they!?!?!?!?!?

[jenmito]

41. YES...

those quotes should be run over and over, too! But if Obama loses, I do NOT blame him. I blame everyone else who doesn't HELP him. How pathetic is it that HE seems to be the ONLY Dem. out there, standing by bridges, calling out Repubs. by name, with no help? He can't do it alone.

I agree with you-if the Dems. were 1/4 as good at messaging as the Repubs., we'd win back the majority in the House EASILY, as well as keeping the Senate and the Presidency.

[BrendaBrick]

43. On running these types of ads

Maybe the Colbert Super-Pac will take this on (of course, all in the name of "satire" - wink-wink). That's something I sure would like to see and there's no telling how much $$$$ he has collected so far.

Though I really don't understand the few ads that have been run so far aside from the Parry one. :shrug:

Incidentally, here's a pretty good video D.C. Douglas posted on 8-12-2011 in the comment section of the Huff Post's article: "Stephen Colbert's Super PAC Commercial Endorses Ricky 'Parry'" dated 8-11-2011" I just ran across:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Kuo8lb6Bg

[demigoddess]

47. Not just the WH, but Congress, Supreme Court and I suspect

the monarchy of the United States, or maybe it will be a dictatorship. President for Life?