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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:22 AM
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Joe Madison: All three woman Cain harassed are white blond and blue eyed
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 07:44 AM by bigdarryl
And the media is trying to hide the identity of them. DAMN!!!!!!!!Herman Herman you can't treat Caucasian woman like there easy pray
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:29 AM
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1. Oh Herman,
you sly devil, you......

Gawd, how I hope they talk.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:53 AM
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2. what media? the left wing or the right wing. Hahahah
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:55 AM
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3. He was talking in general
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:33 AM
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4. I wonder what his wife of 43 years have to say about this? /n
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:02 AM
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5. So, Big D, what does the "white blondes" say about him? nt
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:09 AM
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6. I love The Black Eagle, but how does Joe know this for sure?
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:31 AM
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10. he said he spoke to a VERY RELIABLE source over this past weekend
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:18 AM
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7. And how old were they when this happened
compared to how old he was? Another interesting question.
No one has mentioned their ages so far. He will be 66 in December (born 1945).
The charges stem from 1996 to 1999 when he was between 51 and 54.
How old were these women at the time?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:24 AM
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8. Is that somehow worse than if he had harassed black women?
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 09:25 AM by MineralMan
I don't see it. Unrecced for irrelevance and other stuff.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:32 AM
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11. not for those YAHOOS down South
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:34 AM
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12. His yahoo base wouldn't mind if he harrassed a black woman but if it were a white woman
those 'good ol' boys' will be up in arms.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:03 AM
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37. Ding, Ding. If Anita Hill had been white, Thomas would not be on SCOTUS. (nt)
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pnwest Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:34 AM
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13. Precisely. I have said I am GLAD we dont know ...
... these women's race, so that the issue can't be about that. The poster's glee at posting that info is exactly the reaction I don't want to see. The ACT needs to be the focus.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:43 AM
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15. The OP was "gleeful"? Really? Why do you say this?
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pnwest Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:32 PM
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46. that's the tone i interpreted from the presentation, you didnt?
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:59 PM
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47. NOPE!! I noted sarcasm and believe that the OP had no ill intention.
The sarcasm reflects the sheer stupidity of the Corporate Media and Herman Cain himself. It also points to the sad reality that race matters.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:41 AM
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14. Whether you realize, admit it or not, it will *always* matter MORE when a black man
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 09:42 AM by Liberal_Stalwart71
has allegedly harassed a white woman.

Recommended, because this country still has a MAJOR problem with race.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:48 AM
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16. It doesn't matter to me. It is the alleged harassment that is the
issue, not the race of the alleged victims. I don't care what matters to other people. This is Democratic Underground. It shouldn't matter to us, either.

It's a bogus issue.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:01 AM
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18. Not a bogus issue at all. If you can't come to terms with the history of race in this country
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 10:22 AM by Liberal_Stalwart71
and the damage that it has done to it, then I can't help you.

I do not believe, for one second, that the OP is suggesting that the act of harassment itself is not disgusting; or, is trying to minimize the allegations in any way.

I do, however, believe that the race of the victim(s) WILL matter. A lot!

It's a sad truth, but it is the truth whether you accept it or not.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:03 AM
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21. Perhaps, but not one in need of inflammation
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:04 AM
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22. I agree, but the OP was simply pointing out the reality. It *will* matter. And that's what's so sad.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:50 AM
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33. +100
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 10:55 AM by EffieBlack
I"ve often wondered if Clarence Thomas would be on the bench if Anita Hill were a white woman.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:18 AM
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24. This Is Going To Get Ugly
The charges are grievous enough. Now, the race element is going to take the story in directions we can not forsee now.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:01 AM
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19. Recced for relevance. You deliberately miss the point.
It's not that it would be 'somehow worse', it's how the Good 'Ol Boys who support Cain will perceive it.

THAT is the relevance.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:31 AM
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25. Well, that explains why we haven't learned more about these women up to now...
the RW didn't want the Cain roller coaster to screech to a dead stop!

Can't wait to see how this turns out...:popcorn:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:33 AM
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26. I Disagree. His Supporters Will Double Down
His supporters would deny the charges even if nuns were making them.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:36 AM
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27. I guess there's truth to that, too...they hate all women, esp. those who accuse
men of sexual harassment ("C'mon honey, can't you take a little joke?")...

I can see that...but we'll see what prevails...whatta circus...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:38 AM
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28. I Don't Wish His Victims To Be Of Any Color
But if they are white this story is going to go in a lot of directions, some of which may be ugly.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:02 AM
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20. No, but it does qualify for the Nancy Grace treatment

I think she has a mathematical algorithm for this kind of thing.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:53 AM
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34. LOL!
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:03 PM
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48. Sho' nuff! LOL!!! n/t
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:11 AM
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23. It is to racists. The GOP base.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:21 AM
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43. That's what it is aimed at.
Get those boys riled-up.

I don't know what the problem is. We're all Pink in the inside.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:44 PM
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58. It's worse to racists
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 10:49 PM by CakeGrrl
One of the big racial taboos is black men getting with white women, dating at least back to the days of slavery - one of the driving reasons black men were sometimes castrated/mutilated during lynchings.

That's why Fox News ran a banner about the President's polling problems titled "Obama has a problem with white women".

It's worse than a dog whistle - it's a racist third rail.

To wit: There's a scene in the movie "Glory" (about black Union soldiers in the Civil War) where a high-ranking white officer allows some of his black soldiers to ransack Confederate houses. When they harass a white woman in one house, he warns them to "leave the white woman alone" then shoots one of them in the arm. That's the line not to be crossed.

Herman's all good and well when he's entertaining the voters, but when he messes with the white women...we'll see.



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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:26 AM
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9. Link, please...nt
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:59 AM
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17. "Where are all the white women at"?
Blazing saddles. Hey, maybe they gave him the nickname "black walnut".
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:04 AM
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38. Greatest Movie Ever Made.
"It's twue, it's twue!"

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:40 AM
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29. FIXED
DAMN!!!!!!!!Herman Herman you can't treat woman like they are easy pray

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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:43 AM
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30. I'm finding this post offensive
Let's keep the racial identity of both victims and offenders out of the issue of sexual harrassment: it's about power of the privileged over the weak. We should even keep gender out of it: it could be a female executive harrassing a lower level male worker; it can be male on male, female on female, and any color, nationality, etc.

When people behave badly other people get hurt.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:23 AM
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44. Make us look bad
So they can point at us and say "See!!!!"
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:45 PM
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51. Race actually does play a part in the issue.
This is a classic case of classicism, race, and sexism.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:48 AM
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31. i don't fully understand this post
I'm getting the general drift, but this is a touchy topic that needs some precision when it's discussed. What exactly Madison said and what exactly his point was, what exactly is the OP's point, etc.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:07 PM
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49. Translation: The history of race in this country has centered almost entirely
around the black male and his supposed virility. White slaveowners warned that black men are sexual predators out to mate with white women. And black men were beaten, even lynched at even the suggestion that white women were pursued or winked at.

The Southern Strategy entailed scaring white people about black people in general, but black men in particular.

Again, if people don't think this issue will quickly turn into a "race thing" should these women be white, they're deluding themselves.

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:26 PM
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50. it's already a race thing
for example, this is the second thread at DU that has played up the race aspect of the story. I'm under the impression that the OP, bigdarryl, is himself black, but regardless, I think this thread is be hyping the race aspect.

Then again, like I said originally, I don't understand the OP completely.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 03:47 PM
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54. DU didn't not initiate the "race thing." Herman Cain did. The Right Wing media and punditry did!
Didn't you hear Limbaugh and Ann Coulter's asinine comments? Didn't you hear Herman Cain pull the race card?

Don't blame DU!! This is NOT our doing.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:47 PM
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55. Yep
White slaveowners warned that black men are sexual predators out to mate with white women.

That same lie was told about Native American men. That they all "wanted a white woman" when in reality, the only thing they probably wanted less was small pox.

What's truly ironic is that the whole time the lie that "black men all wanted a white woman" was being spread by white slavemasters, guess who was tiptoeing into the slave quarters at night? Clue for the clueless: all of those mulatto babies born during slavery? Most of them did NOT come from white women.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:50 AM
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32. Aw, shucky ducky . . . nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:00 AM
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35. Wow of wows - if that's true, it probably will finish Cain
I don't think southern conservatives are completely over the times and the days when a black male would be murdered for just whistling at a white woman and the police would do nothing to investigate the crime. I thought Cain would survive this scandal because conservatives will support any transgression by a fellow conservative. But in this case, I'm not so sure. There's a lot of racial prejudice still simmering beneath the surface.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:02 AM
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36. I Disagree. His Supporters Will Double Down
However this kills him with women and independent voters. Too bad it didn't break in October, after he got the nomination if he ever did.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:07 AM
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39. That would have been awesome.
The resounding noise resulting from the entire Republican ticket crashing to the ground would have been heard around the world.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:15 AM
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40. shocking. Normally the MSM is all over blondes with
their coverage
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:20 AM
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41. that would be easy "prey"... nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:21 AM
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42. He Used The Wrong Form Of There Too
But don't blame Darryl. Blame the education system that failed him.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:28 AM
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45. true...
I'm not much of a spelling nanny but some things just scratch my eyes out. My all time #1 eye burner is when people transpose the words "loose and lose".
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:56 PM
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52. My 13 year old daughter said it's always the black dude!
LOL BTW, we are black.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:28 PM
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56. Meh.. John Edwards is pretty light toned, IMHO

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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:48 PM
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53. Looks like Joe was right on the identity of the woman at least one anyway
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:37 PM
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57. Does anybody take Cain seriously? NO
I am so tired of people wasting time posting about CLOWN CAIN!

This site should IGNORE HIM.
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