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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 06:34 PM
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Obama nails GOP presidential candidate hides to the wall...
From the APEC Press Conference Transcript:

Dan Lothian.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Last night at the Republican debate, some of the hopefuls -- they hope to get your job -- they defended the practice of waterboarding, which is a practice that you banned in 2009. Herman Cain said, “I don’t see that as torture.” Michelle Bachmann said that it’s “very effective.” So I’m wondering if you think that they’re uninformed, out of touch, or irresponsible?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: That’s a multiple-choice question, isn’t it? (Laughter.) Let me just say this: They’re wrong. Waterboarding is torture. It’s contrary to America’s traditions. It’s contrary to our ideals. That’s not who we are. That’s not how we operate. We don’t need it in order to prosecute the war on terrorism. And we did the right thing by ending that practice.

If we want to lead around the world, part of our leadership is setting a good example. And anybody who has actually read about and understands the practice of waterboarding would say that that is torture. And that's not something we do -- period.

Norah O'Donnell.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. If I could continue on that, the Republicans did have a debate on CBS last night. A lot of it was about foreign policy, and they were very critical of your record --

PRESIDENT OBAMA: That's shocking. (Laughter.)

Q So if I could get you to respond to something that Mitt Romney said. He said your biggest foreign policy failure is Iran. He said that if you are reelected Iran will have a nuclear weapon. Is Mitt Romney wrong?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I am going to make a practice of not commenting on whatever is said in Republican debates until they've got an actual nominee. But as I indicated to Ben in the earlier question, you take a look at what we've been able to accomplish in mobilizing the world community against Iran over the last three years and it shows steady, determined, firm progress in isolating the Iranian regime, and sending a clear message that the world believes it would be dangerous for them to have a nuclear weapon.

Now, is this an easy issue? No. Anybody who claims it is, is either politicking or doesn’t know what they're talking about. But I think not only the world, but the Iranian regime understands very clearly how determined we are to prevent not only a nuclear Iran but also a nuclear arms race in the region, and a violation of nonproliferation norms that would have implications around the world, including in the Asia Pacific region where we have similar problems with North Korea.

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Julianna Goldman.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. In conversations that you’ve had over the past couple of days with Asia Pacific leaders, have any of them brought up the rhetoric that we’re seeing from Republican presidential candidates when it comes to China? And does that kind of rhetoric or posturing jeopardize the progress that your administration has made with China and the Asia Pacific region as a whole?

THE PRESIDENT: I think most leaders here understand that politics is not always measured or on the level, and so most of our discussions have to do with substance: How do we put our people back to work right now? How do we expand trade? How do we expand exports?

I’ve been very frank with Chinese leaders, though, in saying that the American people across the board -- left, right and center -- believe in trade, believe in competition. We think we’ve got the best workers in the world. We think we’ve got the best universities, the best entrepreneurs, the best free market. We’re ready to go out there and compete with anybody. But there is a concern across the political spectrum that the playing field is not level right now.

And so, in conversations with President Hu and others, what I’ve tried to say is we have the opportunity to move in a direction in which this is a win-win: China is benefiting from trade with the United States; the United States is benefiting as well. Jobs are being created in the United States and not just in China. But right now things are out of kilter. And that is something that is shared across the board, as we saw with the recent vote on the Chinese currency issue in the Senate.

And I think leaders in the region understand that as China grows, as its economic influence expands, that the expectation is, is that they will be a responsible leader in the world economy -- which is what the United States has tried to do. I mean, we try to set up rules that are universal, that everybody can follow, and then we play by those rules. And then we compete fiercely. But we don’t try to game the system. That’s part of what leadership is about.

China has the opportunity to be that same type of leader. And as the world’s second-largest economy, I think that’s going to be important not just for this region, but for the world. But that requires them to take responsibility, to understand that their role is different now than it might have been 20 years ago or 30 years ago, where if they were breaking some rules, it didn’t really matter, it did not have a significant impact. You weren’t seeing huge trade imbalances that had consequences for the world financial system.

Now they’ve grown up, and so they’re going to have to help manage this process in a responsible way.

More: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/14/news-conference-president-obama

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 06:50 PM
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1. He should have also reminded everyone that we tried
and put to death Japanese for water-boarding.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 08:19 AM
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3. We did?! n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 07:17 PM
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2. Obama is 100% correct.
Waterboarding is torture. Amazing how some people need reminding and our weak media just lets this shit slide. These guys are advocating illegal torture for christ's sake.

Perhaps somebody should waterboard those GOP candidates. I'm sure they will say it's torture once they've been thoroughly "interrogated"
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 08:26 AM
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4. Good responses from the President. n/t
-Laelth
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elzenmahn Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 09:02 AM
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5. He's right about torture, but not about trade...
We can thank our trade policies, championed from Reagan through today, for the outsourcing/offshoring nonsense we see today, as well as the flight of manufacturing from this country.

And Obama plans to continue that sordid line of policy. Nice.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 07:08 PM
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6. We can't just end those policies...
...to do so would be economically disastrous.

The problem is thus how to make it work.
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