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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:45 PM
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PPP: Surging Newt leads GOP race in California--by double digits!
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 04:47 PM by WI_DEM
they just don't want Mitt:

Gingrich leads in California
PPP's national poll released yesterday found Newt Gingrich leading the Republican field and our numbers in California over the weekend back that up: Gingrich is on top there with 33% to 23% for Mitt Romney, 22% for Herman Cain, 6% for Rick Perry, 5% for Ron Paul, 3% for Michele Bachmann, 2% for Gary Johnson, and 1% each for Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum.

This is only our second time polling California all year and the first was in late January, more than 9 months ago and before we were even including Cain in our polling. But comparing the 2 polls still says something about the state of the race. In January Romney was at 22% and here in November...he's still at 22%. Meanwhile Gingrich has nearly doubled his support from 18% early in the year to his current 33% standing. Gingrich is surging while Romney just sort of stays in place.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:47 PM
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1. I can't hear this enough.......
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:48 PM
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2. Go, Newt, go
He's the perfect crackpot to be the face of the Republican party against Obama in 2012.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:47 PM
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3. That tells me 78% of Republics don't want Romney.
Were another, better candidate to come along, the remaining 78% would flock to him or her. In other words, I don't think this poll says anything positive about Gingrich.

-Laelth
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:12 AM
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28. I think you're right.
Specifically, 23% of Americans are right-wing authoritarians who have no tolerance whatsoever for people of different faith.

They are, however, not too bright and I'm going to guess that only about half of them have tuned into the Mormon issue so far.

Romney has the potential to drop into the single-digits, which would more accurately reflect Romney's true base of support, which is a tiny circle of very greedy and wealthy people.

Gingrich, on the other hand, is and always has been poison to himself and his party. Every day we can keep him in the spotlight is a day lost to the Republican chances of halting the already noticeable shift in public opinion against them.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:27 PM
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4. gotta love those serial adulterers nt
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:31 PM
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5. May be the reason we still love...
Billy Jeff. He was great...jobs were going begging for people, deficits disappeared, no shooting wars.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:42 PM
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7. Are you comparing Bill Clinton to Gingrich??
oh please.. get real.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:18 AM
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15. Yes I am comparing the two
both cheated on their wives. But the comparison stops
right there. Bill Clinton was the best president in my memory. Gingrich is just a egotistical pompous ass.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 06:04 AM
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17. so what's your point of bringing Clinton into this??
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 06:04 AM by DCBob
its totally irrelevant to the discussion.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:58 AM
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18. It is relevant. Anyone who didn't criticize Clinton for his indiscretions who now
turns around and criticizes Newt for the same thing is a hypocrite. And hypocrisy is always relevant.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:36 AM
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20. its apples and oranges.. the things Newt has done in this regard makes Clinton look like a saint.
imo.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 03:00 AM
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27. I am OK if you really believe that
and I hope you will grant me the latitude to believe that screwing your staffer woman for 6 years while legally married is just as bad as getting blow jobs from an intern on company time.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:36 PM
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21. Please. The only hypocrites are Newt and the GOP itself.
He tried to impeach President Clinton over a blowjob while he himself was cheating on his wife. And the GOP, the party of so-called "family values", is seriously considering nominating this jerkoff for the presidency? If you think we're just going to let this go after everything they did, you're crazy.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:55 PM
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22. But the reverse is more likely to happen imho
those on the right who wanted to slaughter Clinton, should be just as adamant about Gingrich. i just don't see that happening with the same amount of vigor.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:20 PM
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25. There is enough hypocrisy to go around on both sides.
Some who wanted to give Clinton a pass are slamming Newt. And most definitely some who slammed Clinton want to give Newt a pass. In my case, during Clinton's travails I considered it a distraction. I was more concerned with his signing off on DOMA, so-called warfare reform, and so-called free trade.

And now in the case of Newt, there are a multitude of policy issues that we can get him on. When the American people realize that he literally wants to send us back to pre New deal days they will be shocked. There is no way he can be elected IMO. But I would rather concentrate on real issues. If we push moral character issues then we open ourselves up to charges of hypocrisy and we don't need that.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 12:02 AM
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26. Newt and his party are the ones who are always sticking their noses in peoples' personal lives.
If they're going to act morally superior to everyone else, they need to be held to it or be called out for the disgusting hypocrites they are.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:14 PM
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23. No, the right are the ones who claims that it proves bad
character and inability to govern, so they are the hypocrites when they do it themselves and still claim they could govern.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:45 PM
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8. Bill Clinton wasn't a hypocrite about it, unlike Gingrich and other GOP adulterers. N/T
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:34 PM
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6. Wow, hard to believe. This is actually good news for Obama..
Newt has a ton of baggage and has no chance to win a national election... unless the GOP cheats.. which is a possibility.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:27 PM
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9. I am not so sure about that...
The American people are suckers for Right Wing Authoritarian voices like Newt...I hope you are correct but something tells me Newt will be able to BS his way into the White House.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:38 PM
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10. No doubt many voters are ignorant suckers and fall for the Foxification of facts..
but Mr Newt is an easy target for some nasty oppo ads which I am sure some pro-Dem groups will fund. Many arent aware of his checkered past and will be shocked at the things he has done and said.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:37 PM
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11. I agree that there are many people out there that would be easily duped
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 10:37 PM by fujiyama
but Newt's negatives are pretty high. Compared to Romney, I think he'd be a much easier opponent. He personifies the stereotype a sleazy politician.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:15 AM
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14. I agree
Adultery doesn't bother Repukes, and Newt has more "friends" in D.C. than any of the others. Hopefully this lobbyist shit gets legs real fast.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:42 PM
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12. It's the United States of Amnesia
At least it's the case in CA. Time for some reminding...
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:51 AM
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16. I don't think the Republicans know what the fuck they want: A LAT poll puts Romney ahead by double
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:11 AM
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19. Time to bring back this.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:32 PM
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24. they must be so enthused, running their 5th choice
They've found out, one idiotic candidate at a time, that most of these people can't tie their shoes without help. None of these republican voters really wants Gingrich as president, else he would've been top tier in the runup to now. He's their 5th choice. DOA.
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