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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:11 AM
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"And people wonder why the negotiations aren’t going well."
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 08:35 AM by babylonsister
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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/were_not_changing_this_offer033549.php

'We’re not changing this offer’

By Steve Benen


With the deadline for the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction — better known as the super-committee — less than a week away, it’s probably a good time to pause and appreciate what Republican members are demanding. Their debt-reduction offer is, as a practical matter, a negative plan.

I don’t mean that in the sense that the GOP proposal is off-putting; I mean it literally. Republicans have presented an offer that cuts roughly $895 billion in spending, adds $250 billion in revenue, and cuts taxes over the next 10 years by $3.7 trillion. The net savings for the country, if this plan were adopted, would be -$2.25 trillion.

While some in the media seem amazed that Republicans are willing to accept $250 billion in revenue, those same folks in the media seem unaware of the fact that GOP plan to reduce the deficit actually adds to the deficit, and then calling it a “concession.”

This is effectively aiming north and going south.


And with six days to go, is there any chance Republicans might suddenly become more reasonable? It seems exceedingly unlikely.

Republican super committee Co-Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Texas) appeared to double-down today on his contention that the GOP will not consider more tax increases as part of any deal to reduce the deficit. <…>

Seconds after he asserted that he would not summarily reject any proposals, Hensarling repeated, “We’re not changing this offer we have on the table.”


The comments to reporters came a day after Hensarling, the leading Republican on the super-committee, told CNBC that he opposes adding so much as a “penny” in additional revenue, and that his party has gone “as far as we feel we can go.”

In other words, the very best Republicans can do to reduce the debt is a plan to cut taxes that adds to the debt.

In fairness, I should probably note that Hensarling did signal at least some additional flexibility on tax revenue, but only if Democrats agree to partially privatize Medicare.

And people wonder why the negotiations aren’t going well.

Super-committee Democrats, meanwhile, came up with a third offer yesterday: $876 billion in spending cuts, $400 billion in new revenue, and investing $300 billion in unspent war money on job creation, for a total debt-reduction package of nearly $1.3 trillion over the next decade. Republicans immediately said the offer wasn’t close to good enough.

To reiterate a point from yesterday, when this panel fails next week, major news organizations will tell the public that “both sides” chose not to reach an agreement. Those reports will be wrong.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:27 AM
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1. anyone have the details of the Democratic offer?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:52 AM
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2. The Democratic offer?
Accept the Republican offer.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:08 AM
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3. ,Jeezus H. Krist in a basket! Washington pols make sewer rats look like Saints. n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:53 AM
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4. Hell, the Dems aren't even speaking up to explain Hensarling's 'offer' to the media
What are they waiting for?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:39 PM
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5. Excellent analysis...
...and I must echo flpoljunkie's question: Why in the hell aren't the Democrats out there blasting these plain facts out over the airwaves? The fact is, the Republican "debt reduction" "offer" adds $2.5 Trillion in debt. It seems to me this is a talking point worthy of getting out there on every talk show, in every newspaper in the nation.

C'mon, Dems, please at least get the message out there, even if there's not hope of budging the idiot Republicans on the committee. This is a war of ideas, and ours are never represented!

If you can't make the Republicans look bad with the above, then you aren't really trying.

Oh, wait.
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:08 PM
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6. Yeah, wait.
It really stinks, doesn't it?
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