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GusFring Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 08:49 AM
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Scarborough: Obama didn't lead. Grover isn't more powerful than the PResident
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 08:56 AM by GusFring
What? He's more powerful when it comes to getting republicants to do what he wants.

THis is the next wave of attacks. The President didn't lead. As if Obama could lead the House of Representatives to pass anything.

The media continues to pretend as if the Republicans didn't plan to sabotage Obama and aren't in the process as we speak.
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 08:53 AM
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1. Ever try Leading a Pack of Kittens?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 02:25 PM
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10. I can't stop laughing at that one!!!
:rofl:
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 01:24 AM
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12. Please don't sully kittehs by lumping them with republicants. I'm deeply offended...
:rofl:

And welcome to DU.

:hi:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:15 AM
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2. They are really into "power" aren't they?
They live in the wrong country. If they want to obsess about power, they need to move to a country with no rule of law.

He should be making fun of those who let Grover "lead" them when they have more power, or at least, as much power as one vote in the Senate creates.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:18 AM
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3. Even Politico disagrees with Joe...
Publicly, members insisted they were making good progress in producing a bipartisan plan to slash the deficit by at least $1.2 trillion over the next decade.

But time and again, Republicans called for major structural reforms to Medicare, which they said Democrats weren’t ready to accept. Republicans would repeatedly cite the “pledge” their party signed not to raise taxes — authored by anti-tax activist Grover Norquist — as an impediment to reaching a deal that could win broader GOP support. They ultimately demanded to permanently lower the Bush-era tax cuts, including for high earners, a nonstarter for Democrats.

“I believe that he was the 13th member of the committee,” Kerry said Monday, referring to Norquist.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68882.html
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 01:25 AM
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13. Anyone with firing neurons disagrees with Joe... Thanks for the link, though.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 01:25 AM by freshwest
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 10:12 AM
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4. Wasn't it a condition of the GOP members of SuckieCommittee that the executive......
keep it's nose out, or they wouldn't even try to reach a compromise? So they shut out the executive, and then blame the executive for not leading? :shrug:
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fifthoffive Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:12 PM
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5. JS also kept saying
that the Democrats control the Senate. No party controls the Senate without 60 solid votes. How many times have the Republicans in the Senate stopped legislation by refusing to allow it to be voted on?

To say that just because the President is a Democrat and the Dems hold a majority in the Senate that they have any true control is absurd. It takes both parties to agree to govern. The parties have such a disparate view of what government should be and do that is impossible right now. Especially when the Republicans truly are the "Party of No." Compromise means both sides have to give something. The Republicans don't get that.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:15 PM
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6. Time to step away from Joey Scar until he calms down...
He'll probably be back on the show soon (I'm not sending him any get well cards), but if he comes back in the state he was in this morning on the phone to the show, he'll be back a full arm waving rant mode...
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:19 PM
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7. I thought the purpose of the supercommittee was to keep Obama out of it
because Republicans said Boehner, McConnell and the White House couldn't find middle ground.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:53 PM
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8. People can spin it however they want but the fact remains the Norquist pledge prevailed.
That mess is entirely on the GOP.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:59 PM
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9. Hello
Welcome to DU :hi:
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 02:25 PM
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11. If the Repubs had wanted an agreement
there would have been one-with or without President Obama.

This whole "failing to lead" meme is getting aggravating to hear. Republicans claim to want to work with President Obama but when he does (and damn near gives away the store) they turn around and oppose everything he proposes and then smears him and then claims that he failed to lead- as though he could somehow MAKE them do what he wants if he were just "leading" whatever the hell that actually means to them. Last Spring and Summer President Obama bent over backwards so far there was a real possibility that his back might actually snap off and yet the Republicans continued to either walk away from the table or throw up more and more unreasonable demands, consequently shutting down the negotiations time after time. It's almost like they want to deliberately sabotage any negotiations and then accuse President Obama for them failing because he couldn't make them stop being unreasonable. :shrug:
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