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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 06:57 PM
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Obama responds to Occupy protesters in N.H.

Obama responds to Occupy protesters in N.H.

By Peter Wallsten

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Using the “human microphone” that has become common at Occupy Wall Street demonstrations across the country, a group interrupted Obama as he prepared to deliver a speech at a high school here assailing Republicans for inaction on the economy.

“Mr. President,” the group said, “over 4,000 peaceful protesters have been arrested. . . . ”

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Tom LaValley, 23, who described himself as a member of Occupy New Hampshire, told reporters later that about 20 demonstrators had stood in line Monday to obtain tickets. He was complimentary of Obama’s response.

“He looked us in the eye, let us speak,” LaValley said. “He didn’t drag us out, didn’t have security come get us.”

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President Obama

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And families like the Corkerys, families like yours, young people like the ones here today, including the ones who were just chanting at me, you’re the reason I ran for office in the first place. (Applause.) Because it’s folks like you who are why I spent so much time up here in the dead of winter four years ago. Because even then, we were going through a difficult decade for the middle class -- more good jobs in manufacturing that was leaving our shores. More of our prosperity was built on risky financial deals and homes that weren’t properly financed. And families watched their incomes fall, and wages flatline, and the cost of everything from college to health care kept on going up. And then the financial crisis hit in the closing weeks of the campaign -- and that made things even tougher.

Today, many Americans have spent months looking for work, and others are doing the best they can to get by. There are a lot of folks out there who are giving nights up -- nights out, they just can’t do that anymore because they’ve got to save on gas or make the mortgage. There are families who are putting off retirement to make sure their kids can go to college. And then there are young people who have gone to college, gotten a whole bunch of debt, and find themselves unable to find opportunity.

So a lot of the folks who have been down in New York and all across the country, in the Occupy movement, there is a profound sense of frustration -- (applause) -- there is a profound sense of frustration about the fact that the essence of the American Dream -- which is if you work hard, if you stick to it, that you can make it -- feels like that’s slipping away. And it’s not the way things are supposed to be. Not here. Not in America. (Applause.)

This is a place where your hard work and your responsibility is supposed to pay off. It’s supposed to be a big, compassionate country where everybody who works hard should have a chance to get ahead -– not just the person who owns the factory, but the men and women who work on the factory floor. (Applause.)

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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:42 PM
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1. How did he respond?
"“We must stop the assault our First Amendment rights,” the group said. “Your silence sends a message that police brutality is acceptable.”"

So I didn't see his response? Did he answer them? Did he say anything about the violence?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:48 PM
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2. "Tom LaValley, 23... a member of Occupy NH... was complimentary of Obama’s response."
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 07:49 PM by ClarkUSA
“He looked us in the eye, let us speak,” LaValley said. “He didn’t drag us out, didn’t have security come get us.”

Nothing Pres. Obama says could ever met your approval, though.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:50 PM
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4. Who cares about what this Tom (Whoever) thinks about Obama's response.
What matters is what some anonymous poster on a political discussion board thinks. Geesh...
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:51 PM
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6. +1
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:48 PM
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3. “I appreciate you guys making your point. Let me go ahead and make mine..."
"I’ll listen to you, you listen to me...Families like yours, young people like the ones here today, including the ones who were just chanting at me, you’re the reason I ran for office in the first place."
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:51 PM
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5. “He looked us in the eye, let us speak,” LaValley said. “He didn’t drag us out..."
... didn’t have security come get us.”
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:55 PM
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7. Yeah, I read that
Nice guy.

Now, about their point about his silence. Did he address that?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 08:36 PM
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8. Why don't you complain to OWS NH? Mr. LaValley, in particular...
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 08:37 PM by ClarkUSA
I have no time for your whine.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:01 PM
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9. Just askin'
Apparently that's a problem for ya.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:10 PM
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10. The only "problem" is the one you have with Pres. Obama. OWS NH protesters have no such "problem".
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 09:19 PM by ClarkUSA
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:21 PM
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13. Dude, yer bias is showing
It was a really simple, straight forward question. So ya don't got an answer I take it.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:27 PM
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14. Pretty soon Clark will accuse you of empty rhetoric,
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 09:30 PM by Vattel
or ask whether you were outraged by what Clinton did in Waco.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:34 PM
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16. Still stinging from that hit nerve?
:rofl:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:33 PM
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15. lol! How truly ironic.
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 09:35 PM by ClarkUSA
:rofl:
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 10:01 PM
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18. So still nothing
Or do you plan on editing your stuff after the fact to change the context of my responses.

You have a history of that if you've forgotten.
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:10 PM
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11. passive meet aggressive
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:15 PM
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12. Maybe you were "too busy" to read the speech?
Here's the speech: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/22/remarks-president-american-jobs-act

Today, many Americans have spent months looking for work, and others are doing the best they can to get by. There are a lot of folks out there who are giving nights up -- nights out, they just can’t do that anymore because they’ve got to save on gas or make the mortgage. There are families who are putting off retirement to make sure their kids can go to college. And then there are young people who have gone to college, gotten a whole bunch of debt, and find themselves unable to find opportunity.

So a lot of the folks who have been down in New York and all across the country, in the Occupy movement, there is a profound sense of frustration -- (applause) -- there is a profound sense of frustration about the fact that the essence of the American Dream -- which is if you work hard, if you stick to it, that you can make it -- feels like that’s slipping away. And it’s not the way things are supposed to be. Not here. Not in America. (Applause.)


I think he's addressing it here, subtly. I do not think that he is going to denounce "police violence" overtly unless it gets to a point where he is simply forced to (see, Johnson).
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 10:00 PM
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17. So subtle it ain't there
I read that. There's absolutely nothing about police, nor violence. There's nothing at all about "inappropriate" responses to the attempts to protest the realities he does mention.

That's pretty subtle.

At some point one must consider that they are seeing things that aren't there.
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