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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:21 AM
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Question; Barack Obama will win next year because...
Gonna love hearing why from the DU crowd!!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:26 AM
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1. The Republicans are even worse. nt
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:28 AM
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3. Correct. Again it is the lesser of the evils to endure.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:27 AM
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2. No competition nt
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:30 AM
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5. Which is the problem.
If they had some competition to endure, maybe we would not have to hold our noses when we vote.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:29 AM
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4. He stabilized the economy, saved the auto industry, jobs are picking up, he got Bin Ladden & he is
ending the war in Iraq.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:32 AM
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7. Jobs? Just jobs? Whoopee!
We need our Living Wage Jobs back. Where are they? What is anyone doing to get them back?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:33 AM
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8. Where have they been for decades?
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 10:34 AM by WI_DEM
I'm giving you reasons they will give for voting to re-elect the president, I'm not saying it's a perfect record by any means.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:50 AM
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14. Sometimes it seems like President Obama
is getting blamed for problems that have been decades in the making that neither he nor anybody else have the ability to immediately resolve, particularly not with the Republicans throwing sand in the gears of government and making it impossible to even debate stuff let alone actually vote on things. :shrug: :banghead:
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Armin-A Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 07:04 PM
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51. i believe reagan took them and buried them in a deep deep hole
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:45 AM
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13. Whoopee?
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 11:52 AM by Life Long Dem
Speak for yourself. For your information, jobs bring higher wages. When jobs come along it's called an employees job market, and these employees can then demand higher wages. But when there are no jobs it's an employers job market and businesses can then keep the wages down because there are so many job seekers to choose from.

And speak for yourself on post #5. I won't be holding my nose when voting for Obama in 2012.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:03 PM
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33. And the ponies!
They're being slaughtered! :cry: Ponies...
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Foolacious Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:33 PM
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41. ... and cows! Cows are being slaughtered!...
and pigs! and chickens! and lambs!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:31 AM
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6. He's sane, and the only remotely sane (even tho otherwise awful) repub candidates are
Mormons and Catholics, neither of which are 'real Christians' to the fundy republican base.

I am going to advise/remind my fundy acquaintances of the existence of the Constitution Party. Hopefully the (inaptly named) Constitution Party will put up a nice acceptable fundy for them to vote for. :evilgrin:
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:38 AM
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9. I agree with the "sane" part
He is the only adult in the room (and has been for quite some time). It appears however that he simply doesn't have the passion some people require when it comes to solving problems. Will he be re-elected...I don't know...come back on November 7, 2012 for the answer.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:49 AM
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10. He has no primary challenger,
and he isn't a bat shit crazy puke.:shrug:
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:58 AM
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11. NOBODY wants an insane maniac for president! n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:08 AM
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12. because he's popular
and because he's the incumbent, because he has a lot of money, because he is moderate, because he has attempted to work with the other side, because the other side is extreme, and they have behaved very badly, and Obama's tactics have been successful in making that bad behavior very obvious.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:51 AM
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15. +1
n/t
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:41 PM
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16. Why?
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 01:03 PM by CakeGrrl
Will it make you tingly if most of DU simply thinks he's the lesser of two evils?

Or are you rooting for the GOP because you're not over 2008?


:eyes:

ps - he'll win because he is smart, sane, thinks for the long term (pity for the 'I want it now! crowd) and is the kind of leader we need when the crazy / ignorant / hysterical abounds.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:00 PM
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20. .
:spray:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:41 PM
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17. Because more people will vote for him than the other guy (nt)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:57 PM
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18. Because he has been a very good President,
even if he isn't perfect......

And I believe that he will be even better still in a 2nd term,
as soon as the crazies settle the fuck down when they
realize that this country will give THIS President yet
another mandate....and this time, enough of a progressive majority
to get done what is required, instead of barely what could be.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:00 PM
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19. Because he's the least crazy of corporate politicians.
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 01:02 PM by polichick
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:01 PM
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21. Because STUPID is not in Vogue! /n
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 01:01 PM by Cigar11
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:05 PM
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22. because we all know that it will drive the crazy right wing over t he edge,
Which will be hilarious.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:21 PM
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23. Because the majority will vote for him...
...and that majority really wants to piss you off.
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:36 PM
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24. Good One LOL /n
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 01:36 PM by Cigar11
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:39 PM
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34. We want to watch the ODSers' and PUMAs' heads explode!! n/t
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SmittynMo Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:45 PM
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25. Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The man has done more is 3 years, than any 8 year president in my memory. Do a search for "Obama accomplishments". I think you'll be surprised. Sure he caved on some items, but that is what bipartisanship is all about. I remember he really got me pissed last year when he passed on the tax the rich tax. But I believe he has a plan to help us get out of this mess. Or at least get us going in the right direction. As bad as this country was when Bush passed the baton, I think we're doing somewhat better. On top of that, the republican party is in shambles and apparently loves babbling idiot flip flopping clowns. No one will even come close to beating him. I think he needs to get 4 more years, finish it off, and go down in history, as reviving this country. How's that for optimism?
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lindalou65 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:56 PM
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26. I am in total agreement
with you on this! Obama has accomplished more than most---it just seems some people like to call attention to what he did not do rather than what he did (and as you pointed out). I certainly won't be holding my nose either when I vote in 2012!
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:03 PM
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28. What he did do, was help the 1%, not the 99%.
If this was not true, then OWS would have never grown.

zalinda
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:00 PM
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31. That totally happened under Bush, right?
This 'blame Obama for everything' schtick is pretty laughable and pathetic at the same time.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:49 PM
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35. He has continued the same policies. The buck stops with him. n/t
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:56 PM
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37. Like DADT? Like Iraq?
The 'buck' line is used more and more by people who don't understand it. Truman actually used that line for his own mistakes. Not everything under the sun.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:48 PM
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49. In both those cases he was forced to do it.
With DADT, there was a LOT of publicity about it, and we have Lt. Daniel Choi to thank for that.

And, as for Iraq, we were kicked out of there, and Obama wanted to stay.

zalinda
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:29 PM
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55. LOL!!!
Thanks for the laugh
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:29 PM
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54. Nobody else is saying it but I feel
safer with Obama in there. Period.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:02 PM
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27. No whys...it's not gonna happen.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:07 PM
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29. your wishing, will not make it so...
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:20 PM
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38. if they don't vote, that's one vote Obama won't have against Romney.
Be a little more aware of your situation. Some of us don't care if this government survives or falls.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:17 PM
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43. So nothing the Federal government provides or enacts impacts you at all?
The Tea Party will want to know your secret. As will others here.

So that's what it takes not to care which of the GOP crazies takes the WH. Genius!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:42 PM
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46. Then who is going to win, IYHO?
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:12 PM
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30. Because this Republican made clusterfuck cannot be fixed in one term.
Four more years!

:kick:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:01 PM
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32. Aren't you a member of DU yourself?
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:20 PM
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39. Yes, but a self-confessed 3rd party member of Democratic Underground.
One of many. It adds some perspective to some of the outrageous comments made on this forum don't it?
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PragmaticLiberal Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 07:06 PM
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52. I suspect that many of these 3rd party DUers became so right after the 2008 election.
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 07:07 PM by PragmaticLiberal
Very convenient.....
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:54 PM
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36. Because it will make your head explode.

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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:21 PM
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40. Because he's our best option, and your only option
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:36 PM
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42. Because the tea party will not vote for Mitt Romney
Although to be fair I would call it a toss up IF Mitt was the nominee
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:24 PM
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44. Better than the GOP candidates.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:39 PM
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45. His opponents are a goddamn horror show who no one in their right mind would vote for.
He's also done a pretty decent job for a guy who volunteered for the worst gig in the world.
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Armin-A Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 07:08 PM
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53. but there are plenty of people that aren't in their "right mind"
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:44 PM
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47. because of all the good things he has done ....

Obama’s 2008 Campaign Promises Kept:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/

Long partial LIST (with citation links) of what Obama has done: http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html

Short List of Progressive Achievements by The Obama Administration
http://shoqvalue.com/short-list-of-progressive-achievements-by-the-obama-administration

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far)
http://obamaachievements.org/list

Obama’s LGBT Chart LIST
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x777350

Accomplishments by the Obama Administration and Congress on LGBT Equality
http://www.equalitygiving.org/Accomplishments-by-the-Administration-and-Congress-on-LGBT-Equality

100 Accomplishments of President Barack Obama
http://simplifythepositive.blogspot.com/2010/03/100-accomplishments-of-president-barack.html

Lists and graphs: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=433&topic_id=751914

List: 2.8 Years in Pictures....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x772937

We All Have a Choice in the 2012 Election
http://www.democratsforprogress.com/2011/09/03/we-all-have-a-choice-in-the-2012-election/

So That Ignorance Won't Be The Reason Why "Progressives" Are Throwing The President Under The Bus
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/09/so-that-ignorance-wont-be-reason-why.html

80 Reasons Why It’s Time To Take These Republican/Tea Party ‘Sons Of Bitches’ Down
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/09/06/80-reasons-why-its-time-to-take-these-republicantea-party-sons-of-bitches-down/

Bikini Jobs Graph
http://www.democraticleader.gov/blog/?p=4478

Rachel Maddow On President Obama & Democrats Accomplishments (November 2010)
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLQ-OKa6OZQ

Legislation signed by President Obama http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/signed-legislation

Executive Orders signed by President Obama http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

The REAL Reason Barack Obama Won That Nobel Peace Prize
http://wrightandleftreport.com/news/the-real-reason-barack-obama-won-that-nobel-peace-prize/

Obama’s Foreign Policy Successes
http://thinkprogress.org/report/obama-foreign-policy-successes/








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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:49 PM
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50. Thank you for the thoughtful reply- the President is ACCOMPLISHING THINGS
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 06:50 PM by Capn Sunshine
too bad the anti-O forces that meet here daily will never read your list.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:44 PM
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48. He's been a good President and the Republicans are
insane morons no one would want to have representing our country abroad.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:22 PM
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56. Because he should.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:27 PM
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57. You don't want honest answers, you want negativity.
Hillary got over it. Why haven't you?
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:30 PM
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58. Because the TeaPubliKlans are beyond ridiculous
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