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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:04 AM
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Bachman Rumor Grows Louder (gay husband)
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/16/marcus-bachmann-gay-how-rumors-could-affect-michele-bachmann-s-campaign.html

Michelle Cottle article...

If you aren’t yet familiar with the growing whispers about Michele Bachmann’s campaign—the uncorroborated speculation that the candidate’s profoundly antigay hubby, Marcus, is a closeted gay man—you will be. The chatter has already made its way from the blogs and Twitter (Cher tweeted that Marcus has tripped her exquisitely tuned gaydar) to the alternative press to The Daily Show, where Jon Stewart and Jerry Seinfeld left each other in stitches this week taking shots at Marcus Bachmann’s effeminate manner and “center-square gay” voice. (Anyone out there old enough to remember Paul Lynde?) As Stewart joked, the guy is “an Izod shirt away from being the gay character on Modern Family.” Clips of the comedians’ faux “comedy repression” session promptly popped up on the websites of such stodgy outlets as The Washington Post and The Atlantic.

Normally I would say that this is nobody's business but given the aggressiveness of anti-gay crusading by both the Bachmann's......I would say that this is more than fair game.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:07 AM
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1. Yes but this is six months old...
If you haven't heard anything recently, the title is misleading.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:09 PM
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15. So what? The Bachmann anti-gay crusade continues. They are not stopping so why should we?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 12:12 AM
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36. Because we are better than them. n/t
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 05:49 PM
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39. Blatant bigotry needs to be rebutted and ridicule is an excellent way to do it.
Ignoring bigotry because "we are better than them" is what the bigots are counting on. Ignoring bigotry doesn't work any better than ignoring bullying.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:10 AM
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2. I believe that any self loathing closeted flaming gay person is fair game. But given the fact that
Edited on Fri Dec-02-11 11:10 AM by Vincardog
I am not one I don't count.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:36 PM
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8. You do know that straight people with sexual secrets are also
closeted, don't you? Tony Weiner's whole problem was that his actual life was not the life he presented to the world, he closeted his sexuality. Most DUers claim straights have a right to pretend to be Ozzie and Harriet while actually holding orgies in the basement, they think only prudes call for them to come out of the closet and live freely. It is in fact the deeply closeted nature of straight sexuality that causes them to demand gay people remain closeted, or at a minimum, they demand that we are different, they are 'Sanctified' and in a 'holy Union' you see. They have a right to secret orgies held while they organize against gay people, you see.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:21 PM
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19. When my sexual secret is flaming across everyones TV I will repent
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:11 AM
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3. Typical GOPer shit... fake anti gay to throw off the gaydar ....but, the PROJECTION used turned out
to be the attractant by the Radar Crew...sho nuff...bingo...a hypocritter situation...

The Bachmanns are DOOMED
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:18 AM
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4. So what you’re saying is; this further confirms that Conservatives are Hypocrites.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:16 PM
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9. It proves that anit-equality religionists are hypocrites.
Not just the conservatives, sorry. Also the others who shout down gay people while they carry on as they wish to. Obama claims to have religious objections to equal rights, yet he is good friends with Tom Coburn, who brokers the pay off deals for the K Street guys when they dump one mistress for a younger one. Obama has no issue with that. He does not seem to think that such things matter to his precious 'Sacrament'. I guess straight adultery is Sanctified by God in the Mix or something. All of the 'protect marriage' ranting goes toward nice gay couples, while the adulterers get called 'my good friend and fellow Christian'.
They are all juicy little twits made of lies.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:36 AM
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5. There are trees full of parrots in Carmen Miranda hats less gay than him.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:30 PM
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7. So gay has something to do with hats and parrots?
Carmen Miranda? That's news to me. Could you expand on that?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:40 AM
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6. I agree that it's fair game, given their anti-gay crusade...
And also very interesting from a psychological standpoint.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:29 PM
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10. I think its silly and don't see it, fwiw.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:52 PM
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11. thats just plain mean
I don't care how big of an ass he or his wife is, but this is just plain mean and sick. fuck you, Stewart and take your little friend Seinfuck with you.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:12 PM
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17. Mean? As mean as actively working against the happiness of gays and lesbians?
By not allowing them to marry the person of their choice?

Now that is mean. Making fun of bigotry is not mean.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:47 PM
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20. if Mr. Bachman was solely responsible for all that bigotry
Edited on Fri Dec-02-11 02:48 PM by Whisp
then yes. But he does not alone cause all this - and picking on him because he has a 'weak spot' is mean, yes.

I stand by that.

schoolyard bully stuff.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 03:01 PM
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21. Nonsense. Anyone who actively advocates bigotry deserves condemnation.
Regardless of why they are doing it and what their personal weaknesses are. That is like saying we should not expose a KKK member for saying stupid bigoted things if he happens to be less intelligent than most. And ridicule is the best possible weapon against hypocrisy.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 03:07 PM
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22. can you give any examples of where this worked for the better?
I know thats a tough question, but I'm still pretty sure that public humiliation and shame isn't a great tool to use to better things.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 04:20 PM
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23. Maybe it's the principle of it. Bigotry deserves ridicule and other bullies may be deterred.
If they see that bigots get called out.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 10:34 PM
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32. Inwonder what strategy Mandela or Ghandi would have used here? n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 08:55 PM
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26. It's mean to say that somebody is gay? Is there something wrong with being gay?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 09:51 PM
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28. no, you miss the point
completely.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 09:59 PM
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29. I read it the same way as yardwork
n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 09:35 AM
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37. I think that I got your point.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:57 PM
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12. Whatever. This isn't the kind of politics the Democrats should engage in.
Why? Because it's dirty, ugly politics and completely unnecessary because Bachmann doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being the nominee.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:59 PM
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13. What about the harm the Bachmann's are doing with their anti-gay crusade?
This isn't about Bachmann the politician. It is about Michelle and Marcus Bachmann the bigots.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:10 PM
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16. They deserve repudiation, but not as a tactic in a political campaign.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:18 PM
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18. Why not, pray tell? So if I am publicly advocating bigotry and I run for office, the bigotry is off
limits? I don't think so.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:10 PM
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35. GOP hypocrisy should always be exposed
it's becoming so common that eventually even their most clueless followers will begin to grasp the fact that when a repug condemns someone it's because he or she is hiding something about themselves.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 09:36 AM
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38. It's dirty, ugly politics to point out that somebody is gay?
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:02 PM
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14. Just think: he's set up a business working closely with gay men every day
Nothing unusual or telling about that.

Probably gets off on the shame, not the flame.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 06:14 PM
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24. I'm conflicted about this but ultimately think it is not right.
The man is probably gay. And but for his and his wife's actions against the gay community, it would be nobody's business (except for his spouse).

I'm sure his life is difficult enough as a closted gay man being publicly "outed".

As a previously closeted divorced gay man, I say leave him alone.
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 07:13 PM
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25. The guy runs one of those 'pray away the gay' clinics!
I always wondered where he got his 'source material' from.
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uriel1972 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 09:09 PM
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27. Go after the hypocrisy not the sexuality,
There's nothing wrong with being gay.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 10:54 PM
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33. Plus one
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 10:14 PM
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30. Whatev's
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 10:17 PM
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31. This thread contains
a couple of deep seated stereotypes about gay people:

1) He is effeminate, therefore he must be gay. This is still ingrained in a lot of people from early childhood. To begin with, there are many effeminate straight guys and many extremely masculine gay men. The deeper subtext of this is also that there is something inherently wrong with effeminate men.

2) There is something wrong with being gay to begin with, therefore it's out of bounds to discuss this. We can have endless threads speculating about Newt's sexual adventures, but it's "slimy" to discuss Bachmann's husband's sexuality. The media has long had this same double standard. They will delve, uninvited, deeply into the private lives of hetero celebrities, but rarely do so with gay people. See e.g. Latifah, Queen B.

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:03 PM
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34. Marcus and Michele Bachman on Marriage (video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-w7QAEWudQ

Yeah, it's a comedy skit, but come on; hypocrisy is a primary trait for all members of the GOP!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 10:57 AM
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40. lolz Thought of this when reading this thread.
:toast: Great minds....
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