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MN TN Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 08:49 AM
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LASTEST POLLS: Obama vs. Republican Candidates
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 08:57 AM
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1. Wow after the repub implosions President Obama's numbers should be better nt
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 09:10 AM
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2. Keep in mind those polls cover the entire month of November.
So some of those poll-averages in yellow include some or even a majority of data from before the respective implosions. Likewise, the only one that doesn't sit well with me is the Gingrich +2 1000LV from within the last week. That's after Newt became a "real candidate" separated from the rest of the pack and it demonstrates that he might actually be a contender in a general election, though I still expect he'll implode.

The Romney numbers despite being closer, don't scare me because they're consistent. Romney has been consistently within 2% but consistently behind Obama for months. He has no bounce coming, even after he's a presumptive nominee...that number represents the weighty-issue for the Romney campaign of those Republicans that are simply not going to vote for him if he is the nominee under any circumstance.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 10:42 AM
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7. Gingrich has been making many gaffes and maybe will be Cain II
Edited on Sun Dec-04-11 10:42 AM by Rosa Luxemburg
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 09:13 AM
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3. I agree...But this is America where most have no clue
how bad the economy was because Obama's policies kept us from entering a depression. So, in a way Obama hurt himself. Look how long the unemployment rate was above 10% when FDR was in office but at least he had a public willing to give his policies time unlike today! I guess if FDR had to deal with constant threats of filibusters, FOX "News", Talk Radio & MSM that was AWOL then FDR might have been in a similar situation.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 01:08 PM
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11. Bingo!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 09:13 AM
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4. Not with 8.6% unemployement.
The President is doing surprisingly well, to me.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 09:17 AM
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5. It
"Wow after the repub implosions President Obama's numbers should be better"

...reflect the constant negative spin that Obama is, on one hand, a socialist dictator and on the other hand, a weak sellout because he enacted health care reform, Wall Street reform and ended the Iraq war.

The good think is that his approval has remained fairly constant.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 10:40 AM
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6. I think the President has held up pretty well considering
He has the weight of the world on his shoulders with few people to help him. At least he is getting troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so we can concentrate on more pressing matters. If we didn't have so many right wing dings in our own party we may have got a better health bill through. I think people don't appreciate though that the present health bill IS actually helping people.

I think it's time for Obama to start blowing his own trumpet - look what we've done together and this is what we will do. If he individualizes it and tells people this bill will mean an extra $2000 for you. People like it when it touches them personally.
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 11:57 AM
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9. They are better than that.
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hayrow Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 10:51 AM
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8. Any country where a creep like Newt can get 40 - 45% of the vote,
including no doubt the majority of the white male vote, is a country that is in decline. The Obama perception that was elected in November, 2008, would not have let this happen.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 12:56 PM
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10. No one will get under 40-45%
McCain, even Dole got in that range. Of course, Newt is far worse than either of those two.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 01:13 PM
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12. That is the base of the Repuiblican Party, THEY TURN OUT, we don't.
And we don't have the common sense to stay united. They'd vote for a dead cat if it had an (R) after it on the ballot.

That's how they remain competive in spite of a 70 year unbroken record of economic FUBAR.
see: http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/p/economic-record.html
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 01:37 PM
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13. I see the RCP average for the GOP nomination has Gingrich leading Romney 26.6 to 20.4 with Cain 14
Once the Cain vote splits - likely mostly toward Gingrich ..the lead will be even greater. Iowa RCP average has Gingrich at 26% to Romney at 15.8% to Ron Paul at 13.6% and Cain at 12%. Again I would expect to seen most of the Cain vote split to Gingrich.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 01:42 PM
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14. RealClearPolitics doesn't reflect the "latest polls"...
Edited on Sun Dec-04-11 01:42 PM by jenmito
they take the average of polls ranging from over a month ago to more recent (randomly chosen, including (R)asmussen and Faux polls) and label them the "average." VERY flawed system.
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MN TN Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 01:56 PM
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16. Do you have link to "latest polls"?
I feel confident Obama will beat Newt Gingritch after voters find out about all the skeletons in his closet. No one has really examined Newt's weaknesses thoroughly yet and Repubs are running out of candidates.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 02:38 PM
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17. No, because there haven't BEEN any that I've seen. But polls from over a month ago shouldn't be
averaged with a poll from a month later by different pollsters. And if they are, they shouldn't be taken seriously. RCP is very "selective" in the polls they choose to combine and average out.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 01:54 PM
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15. Fortunately, it's not even that close
All but one of those polls are from 2 weeks or more. Rass always lean repuke, so I'm more surprised they have Obama as close as he is.
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